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I just wanted to share yet another reason why I love Chatham County

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 08:06

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 06:03:16 -0400
From: “Tamera Cooke”
Subject: Thank you!

I just wanted to share yet another reason why I love Chatham. The other day I was in a hurry to get home, I accidentally left my tailgate open and a small folding table that I use for work fell out.

I didn’t really realize it was missing until a day later. When I went back to the intersection where I thought it fell out, there it was, propped up against a fence. Oh Thank you! Thank you kind person!

I wanted to share this story, because by doing so, I believe that the kindness and consideration that this person showed, will multiply 100 fold. Never underestimate your ability to do the right thing

Or how your actions, good or bad reverberate throughout the universe!

Thank you again kind person for your random act of goodwill may all that read this, pass along another act of kindness.


Free Intro to Social Media Class at CCCC on Tuesday, October 28

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:56

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:00:34 -0400
From: “Karen Tiede”
Subject: Free Intro to Social Media Class at CCCC on Tuesday, 10/28

Reminder: The Small Business Center is offering a free three hour class about creating business accounts on social media platforms. The class will focus on Facebook, Google+, Linkedin, and online directories, and as many of other platforms as are relevant to the people who attend.

Come by after the Business Expo!

Tuesday, October 28, from 6-9 pm. We’ll be in Building 1, Room 229.

Please register at this link: https://www.ncsbc.net/workshop.aspx?ekey=110340092

(Please cut and paste the link into your browser.)

Call me if you have any questions.

Karen Tiede
919 545 0799


I wholeheartedly endorse Mia Munn for the Chatham School Board

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:47

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:02:25 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: I wholeheartedly endorse Mia Munn for the Chatham School Board

I don’t very often publicly endorse candidates.

I do wholeheartedly endorse Mia Munn in the Chatham County School Board race in district 3.

Ever since her lose in her initial run for school board in 2008, Mia has been tireless in attending most school board meetings. She has become knowledgeable in the working of the school board and has freely dispensed information to the public through this Chatham Chatlist and various other social media outlets.

She has a great analytical mind that will serve us well as the school system needs to plan for growth in the future.

She cares about ALL the school children of Chatham County and hopes to make our schools even better.

You can read her responses to the Democratic party questionnaire at http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/news/chathamschools/chatham-school-board-candidate-mia-munn-answer-141027.shtml

You can view a quick video of her speaking at the candidate’s forum in Moncure – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrQ5X7E7oNU

Here’s a shot of Mia campaigning in the rain outside a polling place in 2008 – http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/moxiepix/b1_6466.jpg

When voting this week or on Election Day please cast a vote for Mia Munn for the Chatham County School board district 3.

Mia’s opponent in District 3 is Del Turner.


Prejudice against “Illegal Aliens” or Compassion to Humankind?

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 04:53

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:09:11 -0400
From: Betty Phillips
Subject: Prejudice against “Illegal Aliens” or Compassion to Humankind?

Lets all think a little more about kindness and compassion versus prejudice. Hispanic does not equate to “illegal” nor “alien.” Those words connote frightening images! Lets look at people, also groups of people, as citizens of the world, all eligible to be seen as positive and productive, not in some verbally defined dangerous outgroup. Lets not look for statistics to prove a category of people should be condemned.

Taylor Kish started this chain of emails, but I am responding to a post today citing statistics compiled by NC Fire. Looking at this information it was obviously compiled to show illegal actions made by people with Hispanic names. Yes we could do the same for others because many people break the law and are caught, not just people with Hispanic names. Here are other quotes from this post: “Hispanic workers and illegals. They replaced many citizens…” and how social service recipients have changed “from Chatham citizens to Hispanic workers, legal or illegal.” So Hispanics are not Chatham citizens? Lets watch our language and our thoughts please.

The same prejudiced thinking can be used against any group. Another post today attached “blue people” who “should go back to where you came from and leave us alone” thanking Taylor Kish apparently for inspiration.

If we truly want to be citizens of the world, lets follow the footsteps of a famous person who called upon us to love your neighbor as yourself. That person is not primarily Chatham centered but the words do apply to Chatham!


Referring to the left-leaning citizens of Chatham County

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:48

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 09:55:33 -0400
From: cabe
Subject: Diane Gatlin’s post

Diane Gatlin, referring to left-leaning citizens of Chatham County, wrote: “Go back where you came from and leave us alone.â€

I reckon the Native Americans (and, yes, we do have some living in Chatham County) have been saying the same thing since Columbus landed.

So, Diane, are you ready to move back to Ukraine, where you say your forebears came from?

In all seriousness, ultimately all of us “came from†someplace else. One of the deep beauties of the United States is that each of us can choose to move to, and live in, basically any place in the country we want to. Further, we carry our individual right to freedom of expression with us wherever we go. Folks from New Jersey (your home state) are free to move to North Carolina, to Chatham County – be thankful for that – and to express their opinions when they get here. Be REALLY thankful for that!

Pat Cabe


Too many Blues have moved in… and they are all vocal on the Chatlist

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:45

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 09:17:36 -0400
From: brenda billington
Subject: conservatives vs. liberals

Diane, et all…

I agree. Too many Blues have moved in …and they are all vocal on the Chatlist! So glad to hear and see brave Reds speaking up. This is one Red who moved here because it was a Red state!



In response to Nansi Greger-Holt’s rant about the Conservative Ballot

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 01:23

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:38:44 -0400
From: Jeffrey Meredith
Subject: Re: Chatham Chatlist #5094

*In response to Nansi Greger-Holt’s rant about the Conservative Ballot*

*Maybe the Democrat volunteers at the polling place can provide prospective voters with their list of Liberal, Gutless, Baby Killing, and Activist Judges. Democrats have a long list of them to choose from. *

*Jeff Meredith*


Chatham Chatlist is a forum for healthy debate, a convenient way to learn about goings on in the area, and a place to link people

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 11:48

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:18:43 +0000
From: Gary Martin
Subject: Balance

Kathy Zinn has a great observation about the list. At times, ,the list does seem to have balance, and provides a wonderful forum for individuals to share “opinions†about various topics. However, sometimes the passion surrounding those opinions borders on the nasty. Responding or providing clarifying information can be done so in a way that furthers the conversation rather than becoming a personal attack about a specific poster.

As I have read the various debates about the changes happening in our town, it makes me think about how unique the Chatlist is. I only hope that it can continue to be a forum for healthy debate, a convenient way to learn about goings on in the area, and a place to link people. In an era of social media, this list is a little treasure in that it focuses just on our corner of the world.

So Kathy, I am with you, it is nice to have balance. I just hope others continue to use this forum in such a way that it fosters the notion of community, no matter how diverse the opinions of its residents.

Gary Martin


See Karen Howard say that the schools are fully funded, then say the schools are not fully funded

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 10:55

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:20:47 -0400
From: Muddylaces
Subject: The schools are fully funded

Chatham spends more per student than 95% of North Carolina Schools.

Two Chatham High schools are ranked as best schools nationally, Northwood, and Jordan Mathews. Woods Charter is also ranked high in the charter school category.

All Chatham Schools exceeded North Carolina’s expectations for growth, and teachers were rewarded for it because of a incentive plan funded by Bock-Stewart-Petty.

Unfortunately the democrat team will say anything to get elected. See Karen Howard say that the schools are fully funded, then say the schools are not fully funded.


Return Bock, Stewart, Petty.


Original full video, It is only four and a half minutes long.


Diana Hales Greatest Accomplishment? Coming from California to get a husband!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 09:37

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:15:05 -0400
From: Tom West
Subject: Diana Hales Greatest Accomplishment? Coming from California to get a husband!

I didn’t believe this when I saw it, but liberal Diana Hales starts off her introduction at the candidates’ forum in Pittsboro by claiming she came from Southern California to find a husband. And she did. (Nervous laughter from the crowd.)

This seems to be her greatest accomplishment.


Listen carefully and you will hear that she is against fracking and attends LOTS of meeting, most of them outside the county. Oh, and she’s really concerned about the weather.

BTW, what kind of cars do Diana and her husband drive. And if she REALLY cares about being “carbon neutral” shouldn’t they only be driving ONE car? Or sharing ONE bicycle?

Diana Hales: One of the “Starkweather 5″


Chatham County Parks and Recreation is currently accepting registration for youth basketball and youth wrestling programs

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 08:17

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:54:02 +0000
From: Megan Gilliland
Subject: Chatham County Parks and Recreation Youth Basketball & Wrestling Registration Reminder

Chatham County Parks and Recreation is currently accepting registration for our youth basketball and youth wrestling programs. The cost is $30 for each program. Registration deadline for basketball is October 30th for ages 5 to 12, and November 10th for ages 13 & 14 (due to middle school basketball tryouts). You may register online at: https://recreation.chathamn.org, by mail (print registration form from county website – www.chathamnc.org/parksandrecreation , or in person at our office at 90 East Street, Pittsboro, NC 27312 (M-F 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m.)

Also a reminder that our Trunk or Treat Family Fun Night will be this Saturday, October 25th, 2014 at Southwest District Park (15124 Highway 902, Bear Creek -beside Chatham Central High School). Trunk or Treating and activities will begin at 6:00 p.m. The movie, Monster’s Inc. will begin showing at around 8:00 p.m. Please bring your own blankets/chairs for the movie.

If you have any questions please feel free to call our office at (919) 545-8555 or send us an email at recreation@chathamnc.org

Chatham County Parks & Recreation
90 East Street / P.O. Box 1783
Pittsboro, NC 27312
(919) 545-8555


Chatham County Association of Educators will host “Meet and Mingle with the Candidates” on October 27 at Northwood

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 07:51

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:38:49 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Chatham County Association of Educators, will host, “Meet and Mingle with the Candidates

Here’s the informaion I could find on the meet the school board candidates event at Northwood –

The Chatham County Association of Educators, will host, “Meet and Mingle with the Candidates, Monday October 27th, 6:00pm Northwood High School.

We hope that you will be able to come and meet our members and the community.

Wishing you success on this election.

Edris E. Glover
President – Chatham County Association of Educators
President – Alpha Pi Chapter – Delta Kappa Gamma – International


President – Chatham County


Here’s who this Chatham County Democrat is voting for

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 07:49

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:18:15 +0000
From: Farmer Dell
Subject: Here’s who this Chatham Democrat is voting for

My fellow Democrat Judy Hogan told us who she is voting for a couple of weeks ago.

Here’s who this Chatham County Democrat is voting for this election –

Robert Reives gets my vote for the state senator from Chatham / Lee county. He replaced Deb McManus when she got ousted for cheating on her family business’ taxes. Have met the man and love his energy.

For school board, I too am voting for Mia Munn. I remember when she ran 6 years ago. After her loss she seemed to get more into what was going on in our schools. I really appreciate that she attends almost all of the school board meetings and provides us with her meeting notes here on the Chatlist.

Del Turner’s time has passed. She doesn’t have the energy she once had and dozing off in school board meetings is inexcusable.

I also agree with Judy that Del Turner mishandled the conflict that arose when superintendent Robert Logan was going to move 6th-8th graders out of our K-8 schools in rural communities, like Moncure, Bennett, and Bonlee. I appreciate the fact that even though she was not a school board member, Mia Munn provided support and information to those in these small communities who opposed these unnecessary changes. She understands that parents to do not want their elementary and middle school children spending loads of time riding on school buses everyday. I feel that Mia Munn will be better able to address the future growth and necessary changes coming to Chatham County schools.

Yep Judy, Angela Millsaps has been working hard in our schools and our community for years. She has my vote.

BTW. the Wilsons may be good people, but you don’t get my vote because you’re someone’s daughter. If you really cared about the position, it would also be nice if you attended some more of the BOE meetings.

Gary Leonard is running unopposed. He’s been good part of the community for years. Nice to have a member of the school board who is still teaching. I’m sure his position at the Chatham Charter School gives him a different perspective that contributes greatly to the school board.

For Chatham County Sheriff I’m sticking with Richard Webster. Don’t see a need to change boats in mid stream. I do like Larry Meadows, but I see no reason to change.

When it comes to Board of Commissioner, this is where we part ways Judy.

I will in no way vote for any of the Chatham Coalition / Jeff Starkweather candidates – Hales, Crawford or Howard. None of them have really done much of anything. Diana Hales hates fracking in Lee County. Karen Howard hates on poor people needing a cell tower in her rich community. And Jim Crawford hates going to Chatham planning board meetings (why else does he keep missing meetings?). Don’t need to say much more than that.

I voted for Brian Bock, Walter Petty and Pam Stewart last time and I’ll be voting for them again this time.

They have managed to increase school spending, given our teachers bonuses and promoted business within Chatham without raising our taxes.

They have also pretty much let our county employees do what they need to do without micromanaging them. A family member who worked under the Starkweather regime has asked us all to keep the Chatham Coalition candidates out.

I love the effort they have put into getting the megasite set up in Siler City and I hope things work out. It might not happen today, or tomorrow, but it seems that that there is the potential to bring industry and jobs to a part of the county that has really been hurting.

I also appreciate Pam Stewart pushing forward to getting high speed internet into more parts of this county. She’s done more than that Vanderbeck fellow ever did.

They all have business experience that has served our community well and I see no reason to change boats in mid stream. I say we give Stewart, Bock and Petty another 4 years.


BTW, I still like Mike Cross!


Keeping it Chathamcentric. People come here to share and learn about things going on in Chatham County

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 06:22

From: Gene Galin
Subject: Keeping it Chathamcentric

Apparently a few folks have felt the need to post items about state and national politics to the Chatlist.

Several election cycles ago we ran into a similar situation on this Chatlist and I shut it down for a week. Well, this time we’re going with a different option.

What will happen if you choose to send in non-chathamcentric posts is this –

If it has to do with state issues it will be moved to the Chatham Online Bulletin Board and placed in the “North Carlina” section at http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/board,10.0.html

If a post has to do with national politics it will be posted to the “This, That and Everything Else” section at http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/board,5.0.html

Fracking issues will be forwarded to the dedicated Fracking NC Google discussion group at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/fracking-in-nc
I set this dedicated Fracking Group up when some folks claimed this was the most important issue ever.

In the many years that I have administered this Chatham Chatlist, the thing that has kept it healthy and growing is the fact that it is truly unique in concentrating on Chathamcentric topics. People come here to share and learn about things going on in Chatham County.

Thanks so much to all you help make the Chatham Chatlist a great local information resource.

Gene Galn


Liberal Virginia Penley compares Goodnite Mark to Rush Limbaugh

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 02:12

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:48:23 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: RE: Upcoming election and Goodnight Mark

Good morning, Goodnight Mark,

We can disagree, but we do not have to be disagreeable. I sense a lot of fear in your reply and I can assure you that you that as FDR wisely said “…you have nothing to fear but fear itself.â€

Since Commissioner Bock ran on a platform of “efficiency†and “streamlining†it seemed downright reasonable to share Tom Sullivan’s quote about the meaning of those words and how that particular idea manifests in practice:

“Limited government is their code for stripping America for parts.-Tom Sullivan, Asheville Citizen Times, 8/24/14â€

I have met Mr. Sullivan and he is very concerned about water quality, the coal ash spill in the Dan River, and fracking. Of course he is quite sensitive about local water due to the extreme-GOP’s takeover of Asheville’s system. If you want to learn more about water issues in that area you can also check out Tate McQueen, who is running for congress in the 10 Congressional District and has fought against the pollution of the water wells in his area by ETS.

However, since you were most concerned about the source of the quote here is one from the 19th century:

“What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.†Oscar Wilde

I would say that sums of up the critiques leveled on me by you and Taylor Kish. Neither of you seem to grasp of the value of the intangible nor by the tone of the emails, apparently our Hispanic Community, either.

As for governing from a set of values that have a moral imperative and center I am joined by a vast number of citizens in the Moral Monday movement, who believe that the governance in Raleigh and its recent spate of legislation is wrongheaded, mean spirited, scrooge like, and lacking a moral compass.

Read Luke 6:20 to 6:48 and try to tell the world that Christ was describing the “austere†philosophy of the right wing, which philosophically, by the way, was espoused by Commissioner Bock when he was the Chatham County GOP Party Chair and has now been put into practice by him and is rubber stamped by Commissioner Stewart.

As for your assertions regarding the moral turpitude of Democrats I have two replies: 1) mistakes and bad behavior are unfortunately made by elected officials of both parties; 2) Are you kidding me with your response? Gov. McCrory has been cited for ethics violations regarding Duke Power and his stock holdings, State Rep. LaRoque was indicted and the entire mismanagement of DHHS is a farce, but here are some GOP names for you to remember: Richard Nixon, Albert Fall, Andrew Hinshaw, Bernard Kerik, Bill Janklow, Brian J. Doyle, Buzz Lukens, Catalina Vasquez Villalpando, Charles R. Forbes, Charles W. Colson, David Durneberger, Deborah Gore Dean, Caspar Weinberger, Duke Cunningham, Dwight Chapin, Elliot Abrams, Ernest Bramblett, George Hansen, H.R. Haldeman, J. Irving Whalley, J. Parnell Thomas, James F. Hastings, James G. Watt, Jay Kim, Jeb Stuart Magruder, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, John Mitchell, John Ehrlichman, Lewis Libby, Oliver North, Michael Deaver, Lester Crawford et al. Furthermore the investments that Howard, Hales and Crawford will make as commissioners will enhance our county and make it more desirable. You assume that taxes will be raised countywide, but there are strategies for keeping the taxes lower in rural areas and preserving our farmland without running our folks off of their land.

Investing in our towns and county is the prudent and wise way to manage for all citizens and residents of the county and I fail to understand why a government that centers its values to benefit the working class, the middle class, students, young people, retirees, farmers and professionals is a bad way to go.

As for the schools, they got to the place they are today because of investment made by Democrats not the local GOP.

The entire Board of Education has been run by Democrats for years and the big investments that have paid dividends for our schools were made by Democrats.

Your team may be able to put frosting on the cake, but we got the ingredients, made the batter and baked the cake.

And your team passed a resolution supporting charter schools and has not opposed school vouchers, either.

As for the rest of your critique it reads like one of the Limbaugh infused rants I typically see bouncing around the internet. And as you proclaimed on the chatlist you may not be a racist nor a bigot, but you appear to have little “jimmy crow†perched on your shoulder–especially in your pointed rhetoric toward immigrants and the Hispanic community.

In closing you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine and if you needed help I would lend it gladly, but I respectfully disagree with most of the points you raised in your reply.

Have a great day,

V. Penley


Illegals use false or traded Social Security Numbers that the employers wink at

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 00:05

Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 14:11:02 -0400
From: Michael Cotter
Subject: Taylor Kish and Pamela Buckingham on Illegal Immigrants

I worked for years as a volunteer tax preparer in Chatham County under the IRS-sponsored VITA program. We prepared many returns for undocumented aliens. In my experience most such people in our county are hard workers. More were when the chicken processing plants were open, doing jobs that others won’t do for wages that allow stores to sell chicken for $0.99 a pound. Very few can afford to be unproductive because social services alone (to only some of which they are entitled in any case) are insufficient to live on. They use false or traded Social Security Numbers that the employers wink at. The great majority of them file tax returns. (The IRS doesn’t care if you are here legally or not, just that you pay taxes.) They do so for two reasons: first, because of the low income they generally are entitled to a refund of taxes withheld; second, because it is commonly believed that if comprehensive immigration reform ever happens people will be required to show they were meaningfully employed for several years in order to benefit.. I note that undocumented persons are not entitled to the federal Earned Income Credit (the state version having been deleted by the legislature). Fraud in this area is usually caused by fly-by-night tax preparers who knowingly give that credit to people not entitled to it in order to increase a refund and thereby their charges.

Of course, people working with a false or stolen SS number will never qualify for SS benefits. Several years ago there was an estimate that the Social Security Administration took in some $8 billion a year in contributions from people (not all of them here unlawfully) who will be unable to claim benefits.

One of the scandals involving undocumented people, as well as more broadly in our society according to recent news reports, is when an employer treats employees as contractors, thereby avoiding having to pay benefits or payroll taxes while claiming the “contractor” as a business expense.

Michael Cotter


Liberal Virginia Penley is “Boiliong” down the Election in Chatham County for us

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 23:57

Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:51:31 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: Boiliong down the Election in Chatham County

Folks, we can make it simple: Commissioner Bock was the former chairman of the Chatham County Republican Party and he is the quarterback for the Red Team.

Hales and Crawford are on the “Blue Ballot” and they are members of the “Blue Team”.

On a local level we can filter out the fear and simply say one side has a conservative view of governance and one side has a more progressive view.

One side supported our native son Speaker Joe Hackney when he was our representative, while the other side did not.

One side likes Congressman David Price, loved Congressman Bobby Etheridge, and supports Clay Aiken for the 2nd district, while the other side likes Congresswoman Renee Ellmers and challenger Paul Wright, who opposes affordable healthcare.

One side likes Sen. Valerie Foushee and Rep. Robert Reives, while the other side pushes for Mary Lopez-Carter and Andy Wilkie.

And finally, one side proudly has Sheriff Richard Webster on the ballot again and the other side presents the choice of Larry Meadows.

I advise all folks to do their research, get to know the issues, and vote.

I hope to see you at the polls this fall.

Democratically Yours,

Virginia Penley


The more we create an environment that business & industry can thrive in, the more money will come into Chatham County

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:32

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 13:00:10 -0400
From: “connectnc.net”
Subject: Chatham County economics

I received an email that challenged my conservative view and I read it and researched it and to keep this Chatham-centric I am applying what happened here in my community as simple explanation of what is happening nationally . Bear in mind to keep this as short as possible I am condensing it to as simple an explanation as I can . There is obviously more to it but the main point will be made . When democrats gained control before things changed in county government . The democrats put importance on things like parks , land use regulations , social services , schools all good things but they also made an environment not friendly to business by increasing taxes on commercial properties and business related things in general . There were a number of business owners who were upset with how the democrats were treating them . The general consensus with democrats was that since these owners were rich they could pay more .

First rule of home economics is you protect what’s yours and use your money as wisely and effectively as possible . Rich or poor that’s the golden rule to survival . These local business owners tried to make some progress with democratic lead government with no luck . Lee county at that time was trying to encourage business to build more jobs to put its unemployed to work with not just minimum wages jobs but skilled higher paying jobs . There was a local business near here that employed around 150 people . The owner was really fed up and when Lee county offered tax breaks and incentives to move his business there he did . Very few of his employees went with him when he moved putting most of the 150 out of work . The average wage of his employees was around $15 an hour at that time . If you round it off to 100 employees , 40 hours a week , 50 work weeks per year that translated to $3,000,000 million per year yanked out of the local Chatham County economy not counting property taxes on equipment that went with him and the loss of local money his business spent on everything from janitorial supplies to manufacturing materials used in his business . This was just one business and I counted at least ten I know of just in this part of the county that left . I know of one chicken farmer so fed up with property taxes he tore down some of his older houses and planted grass to save on his tax bill .

Its it a time honored tradition of humans to become nomads and move to greener pastures , rich or poor its a fact we all move to where we can enjoy life more for less . To expand this explanation a bit further then pull it back totally to Chatham here is what happens nationally when the taxes on the rich go up . There are many countries with little or no income taxes who open their arms to any business that wants to move there . The rich will move assets to these countries to protect their money . We have no control over that fact and liberals and democrats cant wrap their minds around the concept rich people put their money in safe places not necessarily in the USA . Its one thing they cant control with regulations and more taxes . When the rich move their assets and their money with their business outside the USA it sucks huge chunks of money right out of our economy meaning there is less money left to earn and spend here . It works the same way on a county basis . When you create an environment not conducive to industry and general business they move leaving a vacuum of less money in the local economy . Less money equals less jobs and that translates to less people spending money on Lattes and art exhibits , paintings and pottery and more struggling to buy food just to feed their kids . Thriving down town little coffee shops and art galleries will dry up and we will be left with empty buildings and an even less desirable place to live .

The other thing democrats aren’t saying anything about is the fact I made that other counties are creating environments that business will thrive in like Lee county . Chatham County is competing with these counties for that business and the jobs that come with it . We want that INCOME for our chathamites . The more we create an environment that business and industry can thrive in the more MONEY that will come into Chatham County . The more MONEY that is paid out in wages , tax revenue and purchases for supplies and services needed for local business will put more MONEY in the pockets of chathamites to spend on lattes , art , pottery and many more things that make life more enjoyable . The more our local economy grows the more tax revenue will be available to invest in schools , parks and land conservation . Its a controlled economic process that works . Simply put many Democrats want to try to do the process backwards ,, the cart pulling the horse instead of the horse pulling the cart . It just doesn’t work that way .

Do I think some rich are greedy ? Do I hate overdevelopment ? Do I feel we need parks and thriving down town areas ? Do I love the arts ? The answer to all of these questions is YES ! I understand the economics and the mind set of those who drive the economy , its not the rich but the rest of us who really drive the economy . We all want those things and to have them we have to allow people to be rich and keep what’s theirs . When we respect that they invest money locally and that puts money in everyone’s pockets so the whole process works . If you live somewhere your rents too high , your groceries are too expensive and you find a better place that’s cheaper you go there . We want Chatham County to be the place people go to instead of leave from . Goodnite Mark


Diane’s Chocolate cake is scrumptious

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:02

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:14:41 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Diane and her cakes

I am right now eating some of Diane’s Chocolate cake – scrumptious. Went out to the car to get her ‘card’ and don’t find her last name on it either, and I did not retain it, and I’m sure she told me when I picked the cake up yesterday.

She has set up a very tiny but attractive storefront at 1500 E. Raleigh St. in Siler City, just east of the intersection with US 64 and the commercial strip, on the south side of Raleigh St.
She does her cooking at home and phone number 919-663-0959. I have eaten her desserts at the Italian Kitchen Restaurant 2734 Old US 421 north of Siler City. Mr. Melgar there does a wonderful French Chicken Salad with Italian dressing with fresh garlic bread and Heineken’s beer in a chilled glass.

I recommend both to you highly. Real jewels that are a little off the beaten path but worth your finding them if you appreciate their cooking.

The chocolate cake really ‘made’ Dee’s 71st birthday yesterday, along with getting out of the hospital!

Thanks, Pat, at Paperbacks Plus,for your facilitating!
John Dykers.


Shout-out to Wise Solutions

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:52

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jennifer Gillis
Subject: Shout-out to Wise Solutions

Two thumbs up for Wise Solutions!! Aaron responded to our desperate nighttime plea and had our plumbing issue the next day, for a reasonable price. He also does HVAC and electrical. I’ve heard many stories about Aaron’s helpfulness and now I know they are all true. Highly recommend!

By the way, you can contact him at (919) 360-5722.

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