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Explaining a couple of statements

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 01:58

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:03:47 -0500
From: J
Subject: Re: Chatham Chatlist #5185

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Chatham Chatlist wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:13:38 -0500
> From: Taylor Kish
> Subject: Here we go again. . .
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I do not necessarily disagree with you (I often agree with you more than disagree) but I would like you to explain or expand upon these two statements:

> “Fighting the good fight” to steal another man’s property will NOT make anyone’s life better. Nobody.

> California has no shortage of water. California has a shortage of political will to capture and store water like Jordan Lake. Chatham County and North Carolina have no shortage of water. We lack the
> vision and political will to provide for the capture and storage of water for the future. Chatham County commissioners would rather construct HUGE “Justice” centers and “Agriculture” buildings with the
> huge increase of tax revenues based on over-inflated property values.

I presume that you DO understand how many, if not most, of these reservoirs came to be. Many of them involve people being forced into selling their property or having it taken from them under the guise of eminent domain or threat of having their property condemned and made worthless by the government. So would you propose California and North Carolina steal other people’s property in order to start storing water? Jordan Lake, in particular, started as a flood control project, causing several farming families to lose their land and endure a sort of forced relocation. Much in the same way the many lakes in the TVA system came into being. Close to my home town, in Smith Mountain Lake, much the same story, and like some TVA lakes, under the waters of Smith Mountain Lake lie a couple of full towns. Entire towns of personal property that were taken from their owners. In fact, pretty much every man-made lake in NC and the US required someone having their property stolen from them.

I don’t propose to have any real answer, but you seem to contradict yourself there in saying that stealing another man’s property will not make anyone’s life better while going on to suggest that CA and NC should have the political will to steal another man’s property to capture and store water like Jordan Lake, which presumably would make many people’s lives better by providing more water for them.

> Here is a crazy idea. . .How about digging out the bottom of Jordan Lake to build higher shorelines allowing doubling or tripling capacity? Starting now and raising 10 miles of shoreline per year would be
> complete by 2033. (OK. I am not an engineer but the point is valid. We COULD plan and implement processes NOW to capture and store LOTS more water for the future.)

It’s not a bad idea, actually, deepening the lake except for a few issues and likely many more that I’m neglecting here:
* The dam on Jordan Lake is an earthen dam. Deepening the lake would increase the volume and weight of the water and it is likely that the entire dam would need to be replaced with a much larger, much more expensive concrete dam, which the tax payers would have to pay for.
* You can’t just dredge out the bottom without draining it first. It’s a man-made lake, and the bottom is littered with things that don’t do well for dredging operations like trees, houses, buildings, sunken equipment, etc.
* The dirt has to go somewhere. Just piling it up on the shore is a non-starter for many reasons, not the least of which is environmental, and not in the sense of the EPA getting involved but the simple fact that as a conscientious builder you would not want to destroy the watersheds downstream simply because you would again be destroying OTHER people’s property.
* Dredging the entire thing to deepen it would be ridiculously expensive, again, an increased cost that us tax payers would have to fork over.

Comparing the cost of the Justice center and a new Ag building to the cost of a new Dam and dredging or digging operations to increase the capacity of Jordan Lake is a bit like comparing the cost of building a child’s play house out of scrap lumber and the cost of building a 2500 square foot modern home. The two are simply not comparable.

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The last few years have been very dry

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 00:49

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:32:52 -0500 (EST)
From: carole henry
Subject: Here she/he/it goes again

Well, the question still is, where did you get your data that California does not have a drought? Nor does Chatham or North Carolina? What data is there that supports your rants?

I know my land in Chatham County is in a drought. When I moved here thirty years ago, there were drought conditions. The pasture was a bit dry and pond not so high. When the rains started again, pond was full and grass was flush. Some parts of the pasture were not drivable as you sunk in. I am lucky that my pond is spring fed. It does not get green algae in the summer. When, rains came and we were flush with high water tables you could not drive a truck in the upper pasture in the springtime. Told the electric company that when they came to put up the telephone poles. Told them to stay by the fence line in that area. Hmmm they thought that Yankee (from Scot, German, Norwegian lines by the way, same stuff you all came from) knows nothing and lo, they ignored what I told them and a few hours later needed heavy duty tows to pull their trucks out of the pasture, leaving huge low areas where their tires spun down and I am still filling up. However each time I have filled up one of the holes it brings a smile to my face when I think of how it came to be there.

But things started changing. Instead of getting back to ‘normal’ after a drought, it started staying a little dryer then the last flush time. Then dryer and dryer after each drought was finished. It has not gotten back to ‘normal’ I love the mountains and woods and tho no longer have hunted or trapped in decades still like to ‘wood’ walk and see what is going on with the wildlife. It is disappearing. No more the variety of bird life. No more mice around my home. The mice were a pain in the grain bins and they loved to move in on a vehicle that was stationary for a while. Have put out all sorts of traps. Use to catch them using blue cheese. None caught for over a year.. The carpenter bees no longer a bother last year. The grain that spilled out of the feeding pans is still there. No longer are there birds eating the left overs. Does not anyone see what is happening? I see trees dying in my travels. Too many bare limbs sticking out of the tops of trees. You can now see the sky through the trees. The foliage has not been as thick as years gone by. Trees help stop erosion as well as providing shade for the earth and keeping it moist.

The last few years have been very dry. The pasture has not grown the way it use to but the main problem this last year was, for the first time the natural spring which, for every spring time was wet above the ground, was dry and hard last springtime. It was not the dryness that has bothered me it was the hardness of the pasture ground and where the spring was/is. Even during the hottest years the land in that area use to be spongy to walk on. That upper pasture where the jerks got stuck in, is now rock hard all year round. We are in drought conditions and we are in trouble. Clean water is a MUST for all life. You can take just so much from the glass before it is empty. There is no new water coming to us. When big powerful companies can come in where these conditions already exist and take millions of gallons of water, render it undrinkable, inject it back into the ground to pollute what is left, we are deep in trouble. Like their money? Try drinking it.

So again Tish, Tush, Tphish or what ever your name is, where can we find the data that you base your rants on.

“See what they do and listen not to what they say”

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Lessons about staying warm n cozy when its so dang cold outside

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 23:00

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:43:53 -0500
From: “connectnc.net”
Subject: Staying warm n cozy

I thought I would pass what I have learned about staying warm when its so dang cold outside . My heat pump died last year so we have had to improvise . I have found that the ceramic heaters by Lasko at Wal Mart work really well . If you go check them out you will see smaller ones that work ok but don’t waste your money on those . The largest ones are programmable to temperature , on times and off times and some even oscillate . The smaller heaters work fine if you have a heat pump and you simply want one room a little warmer than the others . The larger ones like the Lasko and Pelonis heaters that are rated for a large or extra large rooms don’t eat your power as much as the smaller ones if you utilize them properly . They do burn more electricity but since they put out twice to three times the heat they will cycle on and off more often where the smaller heaters just run steady . The programmable units will cycle off during the day saving you more overall on your power bill . These ceramic heaters can be used to assist your current heating system . Set your thermostat on 65 and use these in your bedrooms and bathrooms when your in these rooms . The automatic timer is wonderful because it will turn the heat on before you get home to warm up the rooms you use so you can set your main heat low so it doesn’t come on much at all . If you use electric heaters to supplement your existing heat or in case you heat fails make sure you don’t plug them all in the same place on the same circuit . Spread them out over different locations so they don’t overheat or pop your breakers .

If your faced with a power outage a kerosene heater will get you by but be very cautious as even though they are considered safe they are unvented to the outside so the exhaust is trapped in your home . Never use an unvented kerosene heater in your bedroom period . I rarely if ever use mine unless the power goes out . The expense of the ceramic heaters has proven more than once to be less overall than the expense of using a kerosene burning unvented heater . If you have any old electric heaters you would be wise to chunk them and buy the new more efficient and safer ceramic heaters . The older electric heaters often use a nichrome wire that gets red hot to produce heat and they eat tons of electricity and the older they get the more of a fire hazard they become . The infrared units and quartz type work well but again they eat more power than their ceramic counter parts .

If you do use kerosene Its a good idea to buy the anti odor water dispersing additives to put in your kerosene . Wal Mart sells a bottle of additive for around $8 and it goes a long way . I have not had good luck getting clean kerosene without any water impurity lately in this area . The additive will keep odor down and disperse any water contamination in the kerosene . This extends wick life and keeps the stove burning efficiently . At winters end its a good idea to let your kerosene heater run to burn all its fuel until it shuts off . This empties the tank and cleans the wick . Its always safer to store these units with no fuel and always remove the batteries for the auto igniter before storage . This prevents the problem of a fire hazard and dead fuel the next winter when you will need it to work properly . Always start with fresh fuel and battery’s when you pull your heater out of storage for use . If you don’t know how to inspect your heaters wick then pay someone who does before you use it every year . Wicks are not that expensive and are good money spent to prevent problems with your stove . Both of my Kerosene heaters are 20 years old but work flawlessly when I need them . If you take time to read the owners manual and use them properly they will last many years and be a dependable backup incase of power outages . I am by no means and expert on anything but this is what I have learned and its what’s keeping us warm . I wanted to share it so others can stay safe and warm too Goodnite Mark

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Brag about Chimney & Gutter Plus in Pittsboro

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 14:59

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 21:01:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: stephanie talbott
Subject: Chimney & Gutter Plus

I have seen a few inquiries re. Chimney care/sweep recommendations, and I must brag about my finest experience with Chimney & Gutter Plus (in Pittsboro).

I have had this company service my wood stoves and chimney for over 20 years, and they have been wonderful. Today was icing in the cake; Just as this ice storm is approaching, our wood stove was belching smoke back into the house and not burning well, yet, we have had annual chimney sweeps. Chimney and Gutter Plus really did not have appointments available today, but they made time, and they found the culprit in our gummed up, blocked chimney cap. They cleaned it up, felt the pipe was OK until end of season and annual servicing, and I have myself a warm fire now.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow…. thank you Chimney & Gutter Plus!!!!

Stephanie Talbott

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Keeping breakfast healthy and interesting

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 14:02

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:24:39 -0500
From: “N.A. Booko”
Subject: Keeping breakfast healthy and interesting . . .

There is an old saying, regarding eating and staying healthy- “At breakfast, eat like a king”- “At dinner/lunch, eat like a Prince”- “At Supper, eat like a pauper.” i do the breakfast King thing, lunch is neither here no there and probably eat too much for supper.

I do so look forward to breakfast. Here what I generally do for breakfast. A sandwich (with my own baked bread) – Toasted with a layer of fresh spinach , two slices of sweet onion- A scrambled egg- The egg always enhanced someway: With either chopped mushrooms, shredded cheese, fried okra or something exotic. Always a fresh cooked vegetable- Turnip, mustard or collard greens. Or black eyed peas, green beans, Brussel sprouts or broccoli. A side order of stewed tomatoes topped with Mung bean sprouts. Fresh brewed black coffee. Second course is banana and walnuts. Or blueberries and walnuts.

Seem like a lot to swallow? A lot to remember? This morning, it was to be a cheese omelet sandwich, Broccoli. As I ate, I thought to myself- how good this is! The spinach and sweet onion were so crunchy and tasty. When I finished, got up to put my plate in the sink, I noticed the omelet I had cooked (and thought I had enjoyed) was still in the frying pan. More than eggs can be scrambled . . . I’m just saying-

N.A. Booko

N.A. Booko lives and sometimes forgets in Chatham County

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Their first snow . .

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 13:59

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:09:49 -0500
From: “N.A. Booko”
Subject: Their first snow . .

In October, I adopted four cats. I already had two- Danny 14 and Max 11. Two of the new ones were only three months old when I got them. Devon, a small size black Persian and Rajah, a lanky bold striped Siamese mix. The other two are Dexter, one year and Princess- eight years old. To say they have changed my life is an understatement. Watching the two younger ones develop has been amazing. Rajah has grown so tall and fleshed out, I sometimes don’t recognize him when he is outside.

I realized yesterday, that the two young ones had not ever seen snow- I thought it would be interesting to see the reaction. I let them out and they were only puzzled for six seconds or so and then went for it. Running, jumping at the falling flakes and wondering about those tracks following them. It was sunny today and the three youngest of the new cats wanted to be outside most of the day. The older ones weren’t too happy when I insisted on taking a walk in the snowy woods.

Such small pleasures make my day.

N.A. Booko

N.A. Booko lives writes and meows in Chatham County . .

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A very simple, “organic”, non-toxic solution to repelling ticks: Cedar oil

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 13:54

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:15:49 -0500
From: Lynn Webster
Subject: Re: Ticks

I have found a very simple, “organic”, non-toxic solution to repelling ticks. Cedar oil.

I keep a large spray bottle in my garage and spray my clothes, my legs, my arms and waist whenever I go out, especially to mow the lawn/field or take a hike with the dogs. It is non-staining, smells great and non-oily quickly after applied. Can spray the dogs too. If the dogs get a tick on them, I simply give the tick a squirt and it immediately let’s go and dies. You can spray your house, your bed, your lawn, or anything for that matter. Years ago I had a totally surprise flea infestation when my dog’s frontline stopped working. After literally hundreds of dollars of bug bombs and sprays until I felt like I lived in a chemical waste dump, I discovered this product. One application I did myself to the entire first floor of the house solved the problem and the house smelled great.

You can find the products at cedarcide.com You cannot purchase them in retail outlets. The company told me they used to be in retail but couldn’t compete for shelf space with the large chemical companies.

Lynn Webster

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This Week @ The City Tap in Pittsboro

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 12:52

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:02:57 -0500
From: Jeffrey Towson
Subject: This Week @ The City Tap

Good morning Chatlisters! I know it’s tad bit chilly out there, but i promise we got a few things on hand to help get you all warmed up! Great music and drink, works for us. See you there!

Wednesday @ 8:00 -* Open Mic*
Come check out some of Pittsboro’s talent at Open Mic! As always on Wednesdays it’s $1 off draft beer as well

Friday @ 8:30 PM – *Acoustic Bandits*
The Acoustic Bandits are a two-piece acoustic band with a big sound. Performing music that spans many genres such as Americana, New Folk, Classic Rock, and Blues, the band uses a variety of instruments to create an interesting musical landscape for each song including music from artists such as Old Crow Medicine Show, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Steve Earle, Townes Van Zandt, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, Ryan Adams, and Wilco to name a few. Formed by music veterans Andrew Barnes (guitar, resonator guitar, banjo, harmonica, and vocals) and Dan Ouimet
(mandolin, bouzouki, kick drum, percussion, harmonica, and vocals), these two seasoned musicians bring their extensive musical background together to bring new life to each and every song.

Acoustic Bandits

Saturday @ 8:30 PM – *Mr. Wonderful*
Yes, it’s Mr. Wonderful. The most easy going, seductive, smooth, snazzy jazzy band to come down the pike is all yours just by showing up! Front and center on the mic will be David Quick (sans guitar) bringing you the choicest Dean Martin tunes rendered in sleek cocktail fashion. Prepare to wrap your troubles in dreams, and dream your troubles away. Joining David will be Bran Maiani on guitar. It’s gonna be a great show so cmon out!!

Cheers!

The City Tap

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Save ticks that have bitten you

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 12:26

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:16:50 -0500
From: “Peggy Moody”
Subject: Ticks

One thing I have not seen regarding ticks is the need to save ticks that have bitten you. Almost two years ago we took my husband to Moore Regional Hospital thinking he was about to have a heart attack. When his heart specialist examined him he said that fluid had accumulated around his heart but that was not causing his high temperature. I overheard another doctor telling the nurse they were going to do some test and were looking for an infection that could be causing the temperature. My daughter in law and I decided to go home while they were doing test. I remembered his tick bites two weeks earlier. I got the ticks and carried them back to the hospital. Immediately they started treatment for tick fever.

The disease specialist wanted a blood sample about two weeks after he was released from the hospital to determine what kind of tick fever. When she called my husband with the name he said I he didn’t remember because he had never heard the name before. The specialist said there were at least seven different kind of tick fever.

The doctors said we should encourage all our friends to save any ticks that have attached to your body. They also asked why we thought about saving the ticks and I told them it was because I read in the Chatham News that we should because we were having so many ticks in Chatham County.

Peggy Moody
Silk Hope

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Talk on basic printmaking techniques at Blue Dot Coffee in Pittsboro on Feb 21

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 11:50

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:33:53 -0500
From: Ely
Subject: Home _printmaking_exhibition _Talk_with_the_artist_Ely_Urbanski

I have an art exhibition at Blue Dot Coffee where I am displaying some etchings, drypoints as well as prints on fabrics.

I would like to invite you to a free informal talk on basic printmaking techniques and on how I made my fabric prints.

Place: Blue Dot Coffee
Date: February 21, Saturday, 2:30 – 3:30 pm

Thanks!

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Graymatter will be back at the Pittsboro Roadhouse on Friday night

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 11:22

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:14:52 -0500
From: Bev Gude
Subject: Graymatter returns to the Pittsboro Roadhouse!

Graymatter will be back at the Pittsboro Roadhouse on Friday night (2/20)!

Music begins at 8pm so plan to come by for some wonderful Roadhouse dinner and then sing-a-long and dance-a-long with us! Warm staff, yummy food, well-stocked bar, generous dance floor and loads of family fun. Kick off the weekend this Friday night…with the Pittsboro Roadhouse and Graymatter!

www.facebook.com/graymatternc

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Bynum Ruritan Dumplin’ Supper on Saturday, February 21, 4 – 7pm

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 10:55

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:48:03 -0500
From: Martha Collins
Subject: For Wednesday’s Chatlist

BYNUM RURITAN Dumplin’ Supper, Saturday, February 21, 4-7pm, $8 Adults, $4 kids under 12. Located at (GPS) 28 Charlie Fields Road, Pittsboro. Ruritan Building is next to the Walking Bridge in Bynum. Join us for supper while supporting one of Chatham Counties Non-profits. We lend a helping hand to those in need, support our community and also give an educational grant to one of Chatham Counties graduating Seniors who is planning to further their education. Thank you so very much!

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Join Big Tree Ambassadors for After-school Fun & Games at Chatham Community Library on Feb. 20

Wed, 02/18/2015 - 10:10

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:05:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Margaret Tiano
Subject: Big Tree Ambassadors: Friday, 2/20, 4:00 PM, Chatham Community Library

Join Big Tree Ambassadors for After-school Fun & Games at the Library

Come join the fun and explore those first signs of spring with Big Tree Ambassadors, Friday, February 20th at 4:00 PM. Rain kept us inside last month, so we will try again to get outside and learn how the Grand Trees of Chatham tree assessment team measures trees for County, State, and National awards. Each person will get a turn using the clinometer and tape, so don’t be shy!

Those who have Winter Tree Finder books, please bring them along so we can practice our winter tree id. You may be surprised how different things look from when we did this in December. I will have more books on hand for anyone who wants to join in.

This after-school program is geared to ages 8-12, but children and adults of all ages are welcome. You don’t have to have attended a prior session to come to this one. Each session is independent of the others and is composed of creative role play and hands-on activities. Rain or shine. Bring your questions!

Margaret Tiano
Outreach Volunteer
Grand Trees of Chatham – Tell us about your favorite tree!

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Permethrin treated clothes work work very well for repelling mosquitoes and ticks

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 13:58

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:24:39 -0500
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Re: Ticks…

Great advance in tick bite prevention. Thanks, Andrea, and I will share with Chatlist. This deep freeze WILL have the benefit of lowering the tick infestation. And other bugs too.

John Dykers

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrea T. Deyrup
To: John R Dykers
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: Ticks…

Hello John,

I saw your posting on the Chatham Chatlist this morning about ticks and wanted to add something to the mix for your consideration.

Before I went to Cambodia, I invested in some ExOfficio clothing that was treated with permethrin, a technique developed by the US military, I believe. The permethrin is bonded to the cloth which can be washed about 70 times before it loses its effectiveness. I find this attribute reassuring since it suggests the repellent isn’t very labile.

Treated clothing can be fairly expensively purchased at REI or other outdoor shops – I’ve paid $60 – 70 for a shirt/pair of pants. BUT, the factory that does the treatment is right here in Greensboro. They will treat a customer’s own clothing for less than $10 an item.

It has been my experience that this works very well for repelling mosquitos and ticks – when I go fishing in Insect Shield socks, pants, shirt, baseball hat and neck kerchief, the mosquitos fly around the exposed skin on my hands, but leave the rest of me alone. I’ve never found ticks on me while using it (I guess one could argue that the socks tucked into pants are the real prevention, but I have found ticks on me when doing that if the clothes aren’t treated).

Tony and I have a pile of clothing that’s been treated including overalls and scrub pants (lightweight!). I’ve recommended Insect Shield to a lot of folks (including my mother who was a pesticide residue chemist for the EPA) and they have all been happy.

I’d be interested in your opinion!

Andrea

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Permethrin treated clothes work work very well for repelling mosquitoes and ticks

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 13:58

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:24:39 -0500
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Re: Ticks…

Great advance in tick bite prevention. Thanks, Andrea, and I will share with Chatlist. This deep freeze WILL have the benefit of lowering the tick infestation. And other bugs too.

John Dykers

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrea T. Deyrup
To: John R Dykers
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: Ticks…

Hello John,

I saw your posting on the Chatham Chatlist this morning about ticks and wanted to add something to the mix for your consideration.

Before I went to Cambodia, I invested in some ExOfficio clothing that was treated with permethrin, a technique developed by the US military, I believe. The permethrin is bonded to the cloth which can be washed about 70 times before it loses its effectiveness. I find this attribute reassuring since it suggests the repellent isn’t very labile.

Treated clothing can be fairly expensively purchased at REI or other outdoor shops – I’ve paid $60 – 70 for a shirt/pair of pants. BUT, the factory that does the treatment is right here in Greensboro. They will treat a customer’s own clothing for less than $10 an item.

It has been my experience that this works very well for repelling mosquitos and ticks – when I go fishing in Insect Shield socks, pants, shirt, baseball hat and neck kerchief, the mosquitos fly around the exposed skin on my hands, but leave the rest of me alone. I’ve never found ticks on me while using it (I guess one could argue that the socks tucked into pants are the real prevention, but I have found ticks on me when doing that if the clothes aren’t treated).

Tony and I have a pile of clothing that’s been treated including overalls and scrub pants (lightweight!). I’ve recommended Insect Shield to a lot of folks (including my mother who was a pesticide residue chemist for the EPA) and they have all been happy.

I’d be interested in your opinion!

Andrea

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If power goes off and no flow can be maintained in the pipes, the only hope is to drain them

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 13:22

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:20:59 -0500
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Cold

On a more immediate note, and this may be too late!

Power outage seems likely and if we lose heat, pipes freezing can be devastating. IF we don’t lose water pressure, keeping it flowing may run up the meter in town, but far less expensive than replacing burst pipes; hot and cold water pipes.

I am faced with exposed pipes and have turned off one well and DRAINED the pipes while it is still warm enough to do so. By the time this is posted Tues there may be no power to read it and pipes already frozen and undrainable. Sorry; I just did not think about Thur and Fri being sooooo cold and not thawing for maybe 72 hours or longer. Hope you all thought of this option sooner, but even more, hope you keep heat and electricity.

If power goes off and no flow can be maintained in the pipes, the only hope is to drain them, and it may already be too cold to do so when that happens. SOL. I guess we will just share the misery.

John Dykers

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If power goes off and no flow can be maintained in the pipes, the only hope is to drain them

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 13:22

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:20:59 -0500
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Cold

On a more immediate note, and this may be too late!

Power outage seems likely and if we lose heat, pipes freezing can be devastating. IF we don’t lose water pressure, keeping it flowing may run up the meter in town, but far less expensive than replacing burst pipes; hot and cold water pipes.

I am faced with exposed pipes and have turned off one well and DRAINED the pipes while it is still warm enough to do so. By the time this is posted Tues there may be no power to read it and pipes already frozen and undrainable. Sorry; I just did not think about Thur and Fri being sooooo cold and not thawing for maybe 72 hours or longer. Hope you all thought of this option sooner, but even more, hope you keep heat and electricity.

If power goes off and no flow can be maintained in the pipes, the only hope is to drain them, and it may already be too cold to do so when that happens. SOL. I guess we will just share the misery.

John Dykers

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Building People Power for Climate and Energy Justice on Wednesday, Feb. 18 at CCCC in Pittsboro at 7pm

Tue, 02/17/2015 - 12:49

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:39:56 -0500
From: Laura Lauffer
Subject: Environmental Policy Briefing and more, Wednesday night at CCCC 2/18 7pm

Be sure to come to dinner at the Natural Chef Cafe before the presentation http://www.cccc.edu/naturalchefcafe/ reservations recommended!

Hi Friends Please join us and bring your neighbors to hear about the essential legislative issues we need to be aware of this year, and how consumers can support clean energy in NC.

CCCCs Students for Sustainability sponsors the Sustainable Speaker Series- Mary Hayes Holmes Conference Room, Library
FEBRUARY 18 | 7:00 p.m. 8:30 p.m. | Building People Power for Climate and Energy Justice
Concerned about coal ash? Fracking? How does Solarize Chatham work to reduce the cost of a home renewable energy system? NC Waste Awareness and Reduction (NC WARN) has been educating and engaging the public towards a clean energy future for over 26 years, and with great successes along the way. Be inspired and enlightened by their informative and lively presentation and join forces to shape our energy future for years to come.

Laura Lauffer, LEED GA
Sustainability Coordinator & Lead Instructor
Sustainable Technologies Program
Central Carolina Community College
Pittsboro, NC 27312
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919 545 8032

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Chatham County seeks interested citizens to serve on panels to review nonprofit funding requests

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:19

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:06:22 +0000
From: Debra Henzey
Subject: Chatham Needs Volunteers for Nonprofit Grant Review Panels

Contact: Lisa West, 919-542-8200
January 19, 2015

Chatham Needs Volunteers for Nonprofit Grant Review Panels

PITTSBORO- Chatham County seeks interested citizens to serve on panels to review nonprofit funding requests. To broaden the opportunity for citizen input, the county is holding meetings during daytime and evening hours. The deadline to apply is Feb. 19, 2015.

The panels are in particular need of participants with expertise in human services, such as programs that serve seniors, children and families, low-income residents, disabled residents and others with special needs.

“These panels have a critical role in helping the county make the best decision about funding nonprofits,” said Renee Paschal, assistant county manager. “The grant process is very competitive, especially since we typically don’t have enough money to fund all requests.”

Paschal added that the panels provide a thorough review of all requests. “The Chatham County Board of Commissioners greatly appreciates input from the panel members on the best use of the county’s nonprofit funding.”

Review panel volunteers will receive training in March, visit four to six agencies in early April (at the volunteers’ convenience), hear 30-minute presentations from four to six agencies, and recommend county funding for each agency. Volunteers also will be asked to provide a written description of their funding decision and the rationale for that decision.

Volunteers can select the four-hour time blocks that they wish to serve. Meetings will be scheduled to accommodate as many volunteers as possible as well as to accommodate the nonprofit agencies under review. Review panels will meet from April 13-17, 2015.

Volunteers must be residents of Chatham County. Employees of non-profit agencies that apply for county funds are not eligible to serve. Board members and volunteers of non-profit agencies that apply for county funds may serve on a panel that is not related to their non-profit agency or any similar agency.

Volunteers who served on review panels last year do not need to complete another application but can email Lisa West directly no later than Feb. 19, 2015 to update their contact information and any changes to their nonprofit affiliations.

New volunteers must submit a completed volunteer application no later than Feb. 19, 2015. A link to the application form can be found at www.chathamnc..org. Look for QUICK LINKS box at the top of the page to find it. The form can be filled in on your computer, printed, and emailed to: lisa.west@chathamnc.org<
mailto:lisa.west@chathamnc.org>.

When you fill it in you must print it, otherwise the information will be lost. Or, you can print off the form, complete it manually and mail to: Lisa West, Chatham County Manager’s Office, P. O. Box 1809, Pittsboro, NC 27312 or fax to 542-8272.

Call or email Lisa West at 545-8483 lisa.west@chathamnc.org if you have questions.

In keeping with the NC Public Records Law, e-mails, including attachments, may be released to others upon request for inspection and copying.

Debra Henzey
Chatham County Director of Community Relations
919-542-8258
Cell 919-548-4662

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Is anyone else in northeast Chatham hearing the coyotes at night?

Wed, 02/11/2015 - 08:12

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:29:28 -0500
From: gardener
Subject: About missing dogs and cats in Chatham

Fellow chatlisters,

I don’t wish to unduly alarm anyone, but I want to share my recent experiences with a pack of coyotes. My spouse and I were outside watching the meteor shower a few weeks ago, talking quietly. Suddenly, definitely more than one coyote began yipping and howling back and forth to each other, and growing nearer. We went back into our house. Then last weekend, we were in our living room watching TV, when we thought we heard prolonged sirens, but the noise wasn’t quite right. When we turned off the TV, we realized it was the coyotes again, and they were very close. From the sound, we are certain they were about 100 yards from our house, probably just on the other side of the creek that edges one side of our property. I had noticed vultures there earlier in the day, and I suspect the VERY LOUD yipping and howling of the pack occurred as they talked about the carcass they were feeding on. They yipped and howled for about 20 minutes. It was very unnerving.

I live on Manns Chapel Road, and this is the first time in the 25+ years I’ve lived there that I’ve heard a pack of coyotes this close, and repeatedly. I have a friend who lives on Booth Hill Road who lost a cat to coyotes about two months ago. I believe the coyotes are settling into the northeastern part of Chatham county in numbers not previously observed.

There have been conversations on this forum and on the bulletin board about the deviousness of coyotes. They are apparently known to lure dogs away from home before killing them. And it’s my understanding that any outdoor cat is considered fair game to the pack. Unless the coyote population declines again, I personally believe it is too dangerous to leave any pet outside unattended, most especially at night, but really any time. I know I never will again.

Perhaps all of Chatham’s coyotes have moved in next door to me, but I rather doubt that. Even fences are not always adequate defenses against coyotes, I’ve read. If you love your pets, please revisit how you manage their outdoor time.

If there is an up side to the influx of coyotes, it is their impact on my local deer population. I am seeing fewer of them all the time, even fewer tracks. And much less nibbling of my plants. Still, those nightly yips and howls are very creepy, and make me glad that I currently own no pets.

Is anyone else in northeast Chatham hearing the coyotes at night?

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