In-home Caregiver Respite Available through Chatham Council on Aging’s Family Caregiver Support Program
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:47:19 -0400
From: Brett Moraes
Subject: In-home Caregiver Respite Available through Council on Aging’s Family Caregiver Support Program
The Chatham County Council on Aging’s Family Caregiver Support Program is dedicated to assisting Chatham’s caregivers. We have a number of programs that can help. They include:
*In Home Caregiver Respite*
For 24 hour caregivers, just leaving the house or doing something for themselves can be a daunting task. What the respite program does is give those caregivers a chance to go ahead and take that break to take time for themselves, therefore they are better able to take care of their loved one(s). We contract with a local, bonded home health agency to provide experienced aides to give weekly relief. This is a donation-based program, so there is no cost to the program and is available to most all Chatham clients. We have room in the program and are taking new clients right now!
*Caregiver Support Group*
The Chatham county caregiver support group meets the third Monday of every month at the senior center in Pittsboro. Meeting starts at 6:00pm. To find out upcoming topics of discussion, getting on the mailing list for future meeting notices or for more information, please call the number below.
*Powerful Tools for Caregivers* is a 6 week course designed to arm you with the “tools” to better take care of yourself, effectively communicate with others, and learn of national and local resources. The next course starts in October and is being held in Siler City. For more information, or to sign up for this free course, please contact below.
*Medical Equipment for Loan*
The Council on Aging receives all kinds of donations of medical assitive devices: wheelchairs, shower seats, walkers, commodes, canes-you name it! We also have electric wheelchairs and hospital beds from time to time. We loan these items out to anyone who needs them at no cost for as long as they are needed. There are no income, residency, or age threshold of any kind. If you have an assitive or medical device you would like to donate to the COA, we would be more than happy to provide you with a letter for tax purposes.
Again, all programs are donation based-you are free to contribute towards the cost of the program, but are not required to. Contributions do not determine position on wait lists or participation in the program. If you have any interest in one or more of the programs listed above, please do not hesitate to contact me. My contact information:
Community Care & Support Manager
Chatham County Council on Aging
Hobbs Architects won a 2014 AIA North Carolina Design Award for their work on the historic Chatham courthouse
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:51:11 -0400
From: allen baddour
Subject: award for historic courthouse
Hobbs Architects won a 2014 AIA North Carolina Design Award for their work on the historic courthouse, and I also thought I’d share this link discussing the project. Very cool.
Judge Allen Baddour
Chatham County Justice Center
PO Box 609
40 E. Chatham Street
Pittsboro, NC 27312
(919) 545.3583 (direct)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:36:53 -0400
From: Thurman Maness
Subject: D.O.T’s Shabby Highway Mowing . .
I watched hyway 64 being built. Five nerve jangling years of digging, pushing, pulling, honking, burning, leveling, measuring and messing about. All for the perfect hyway . Natural hills and slopes were cut away and replaced with ‘more perfect’ man made piles of dirt. Man made hills and slopes that would accommodate modern machinery and the overflow of rain water. The new highway also gave this area something along the roadside, from imported dirt, we never had before on the shoulders of the road- Fire ants, thistle and jimpson weed.
Last year, the three or four mowers completely missed my driveway. Leaving the weeds to grow and grow. A volunteer Popular tree in the ditch tree now reaches six feet or more before I have to cut it myself, so I can see to pull my car onto the highway. And the few times the mowers have cut the grass along my dirt driveway, the machines have dug into the soil and made a mess of it. When they sometimes mow around the mailbox, they hit it and it now will not stand up straight.
I watched last week as the mowers, at least two of them, deliberately skipped my driveway, leaving ragweed waist high and the area, including the mailbox, looking overgrown. It is difficult to get out of my car while in the driveway, because of the tall weeds. I have complained before, to no avail. I know for a fact, that from my residence, six miles to Pittsboro, no other driveway looks so shabby. And I am willing to bet, that no driveway, in the other direction, toward Siler City, has ragweed waist high.
The one consolation is, that it will become so overgrown that Duke Power will mistake the weeds for trees interfering with their power lines, they will swoop down again and level anything and everything in sight.
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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:59:58 -0400
From: Tarus BALOG
Subject: Re: Democrat activists on this Chatlist
On 09/02/2014 07:28 AM, Chatham Chatlist wrote:
> From: Taylor Kish
> Subject: Democrat activists on this Chatlist
> I NEVER got anything from the government but fees and taxes I had to
> pay. EVERYTHING I have I worked for.
Really? You never got anything from the government?
Where do you get your electricity? I can’t think of a way you could have posted your little rant without electricity, but that is a market that was created by and is maintained by the government. I’m not saying that the government invented modern power distribution, but the fact that almost everyone has access to it at set rates and common voltages and frequencies is due to government regulation.
Do you own a car? If you do, you got something from the government. The government makes sure they are safe to operate and they provide the roads on which you use them. They provide standards for fuel that make it possible to travel great distances.
How did you learn to write English? Were you home schooled? If so, where did your parents learn? My guess is that some point in time in your family’s history someone went to a public school. Who gave you that opportunity? The government.
Finally, are you beaten a robbed every day? If not, you can thank the government. We have created a society that includes police men and women who keep the country from falling into anarchy. In fact, the money that someone would take from you in a robbery is another government product.
For the record, I am an unaffiliated voter. There are things I like about both major parties but there are a lot of things I dislike about them – mainly this “us versus them” partisan bickering which is doing nothing but hurting this country. You seem to think the Republicans have all the answers, and you perpetuate the myth that Republicans are more fiscally responsible, but the fact is that there is strong evidence that shows the government spends a lot more with Republican presidents than with Democratic ones:
Also, for the record, the only political party I’ve ever belonged to was the Republican party, but I left when they starting policing my morals, dictating to me how I should behave, and spending money like sailors on shore leave.
Trust me, I believe in hard work and at the moment neither political party looks out for my interests. My business is not “too big to fail”.
You also seem to have a thing against immigration. I interact a lot with the Latino community in Chatham County and I find almost all of them to be a lot more hard working than the average native born. My grandfather immigrated to this country to work in the coal mines of Pennsylvania and he died of black lung before I was born, but that was the start our family needed to allow me to sit here and write this today.
Our country is hurting and we need to somehow heal this “us versus them” wound that comments like yours just perpetuate. We need to get back to the point when compromise didn’t mean defeat. We need to reward hard work as well as create opportunities for meaningful work for those who don’t have it.
People who promote these values get my vote – and I could care less about what party they belong to.
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:56:31 -0400
From: Robert Waldrop
Subject: Disenfranchisement versus Learning and Flying the Flag
Interestingly, it was Labor Day but they were working ! How ironic. By choice to some extent I agree, but who knows how the employees are scheduled. I would have loved to have heard the conversation to get all the nuance I expect your email leaves out. From both sides.
McDonalds gets those that can’t find work elsewhere. It would be the last place on my list to go to work (but I would if I had to). Might you also assume that these people are in the process of learning ? I have been in the process of learning Spanish for 15 years and still stink at it but I plod along. At an advanced age, it is not easy to do.
Think beyond the present while remembering the past.
Native North Carolinian and 30 year Chatham Resident (and descendant of the Bacot family of French Hugonauts).
Should the opportunity to secure an auto manufacturer in NC arise, NC Commerce Dept will co-ordinate such an effort
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:24:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Chatham Chatlist #5080
“…location of an auto manufacturing plant in Chatham is a bunch of hot air at this point” -Another democrat poster
Siler City and western Chatham voters. Remember this statement when you vote. You’ve got three commissioners who are working for you. Is the certified megasite a done deal? Of course not.
Labeling me as a “democrat poster” in what way negates the point I was making??? This is the way partisan ideologues respond; not to the ideas or facts presented, but with a pigeonhole, as if that will change what I said in some meaningful way. It doesn’t. Muddylaces has been saying that west Chatham is on the verge of landing an auto manufacturing plant, if ONLY the Republican commissioners are reelected; that major automakers will not work with any of the democrats currently serving or running for election. And I am saying this is nonsense. A financial decision of this magnitude is NOT made at the commission level. Is NOT made because of the political affiliation of the commissioners. The assertion is factually bogus. Should the opportunity to secure an auto manufacturer in NC arise, NC Commerce Dept will co-ordinate such an effort, and you can rest assured that whomever is elected this fall will be working hard to make it happen. An so will those in Alamance and Mecklenburg counties which also have megasites assembled.
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:10:43 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Laffer Curve
I left out an important influence on the Laffer Curve point at which increasing taxes decreases economic activity and decreases tax revenue OR at which decreasing taxes increases economic activity and increases revenue. That other variable is the underlying level of economic activity that exists independent of taxation. So that point on the curve changes with such things as monetary policy and fiscal policy and existential events in the world economy like ISIS and Ebola, etc. But there is a point at which taxation effects economic activity and tax revenue, rate vs revenue in either direction.
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 07:18:56 -0700
From: will freedom
Subject: How Chatham Co will move forward.
I do not think it is reasonable for folks to post that one side or the other is for or against the megasite in Western Chatham. It appears to me that if the State were to bring a large automotive manufacturer to our area the elected officials would work with them regardless of who is in office.
The bigger questions revolve around governing philosophy and quality of life. If we build a community that invests in our people and our infrastructure and our environment we will have no problem competing with other counties and regions.
However, if we are perceived as mean spirited, lack critical infrastructure, fail to invest in our educational system and allow our environment, especially water, to become despoiled—we will not attract 21st century manufacturing operations.document.getElementById("post-17742-blankimage").onload();
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 19:02:09 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: A good trade
As I have written in the past, I have lived here for over 42 years, raised my daughter in Chatham County and my deceased husband had deep roots in Madison County and Buncombe County.
I am a property owner and like most other property owners, I want clean and transparent government led by officials who are good fiscal stewards of our resources who also exhibit fortitude and vision.
I have no personal issue with our current elected officials, other than I believe that replacing Brian Bock and Pam Stewart with Jim Crawford and Diana Hales is a good trade for the people of Chatham County and our region.
(Neither Karen Howard nor Walter Petty have opposition. Ms. Howard will replace Jim Elza who was the pick to fill in for former county chairwoman, Sally Kost.)
From what I understand, Jim Crawford grew up on a farm in central Pennsylvania in a large family, he was the President of his high school class, graduated from Penn State and received his masters and doctorate degrees from UNC-Chapel Hill. Jim is a good carpenter, who understands the value of hard work, craftsmanship and pride in a job well done. He is also a historian, a member of the County Planning Board and an educator, who will push to make good decisions in our county for education and planning. He has a child at Northwood High School and his wife is an accomplished
executive in her own right at Lenovo. Jim has the time and desire to listen to the people and serve our county.
Diana Hales is a studious, hard working and thorough person, who worked in mapping at DENR. She is a hard worker and I believe she may have a better attendance record over the past 3 a 1/2 years at county BOC meetings than either Mr. Bock or Ms. Stewart. Diana is willing to make tough decisions, understands the serious effects of fracking and opposes its approval in NC. She will also work diligently to bring investment to Siler City, Goldston and Pittsboro and will be a strong advocate for clean and safe drinking water. Diana is married and cares greatly about the Rocky River and improving financial prospects for Chatham County and more particularly Western Chatham.
Bock and Stewart for Crawford and Hales sounds like a good move for the voters of Chatham County and a trade we should all endorse.document.getElementById("post-17730-blankimage").onload();
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:44:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Commissioners Race
Election time it is! Talk abounds of Laffer curves actually working and nefarious left wing scoundrels.
Couple of points: location of an auto manufacturing plant in Chatham is a bunch of hot air at this point and is NOT going to be decided by the political stripe of the County Commissioners. NC tried hard to get both Mercedes and Volkswagon to locate here. Mega sites awaited both. Neither did. Not enough $ offered to lure them in. Pure and simple. Had zero to do with the political party at the commission level. Those suggesting otherwise reimagine history. I am confident that whomever is elected will work diligently to bring auto manufacturing jobs to western Chatham, should that opportunity ever arise.
At a recent candidate’s forum, Commissioner Bock applaud his decision to extend funding to the rape crises shelter as a worthy solution to Chatham’s homeless and affordable housing problem(s). While I agree with Mr Bock that funding the rape crises center IS worthy of our support, it was a violation in letter and spirit of the intent of the Funding in lieu of that the county received from Briar Chapel. Indeed, Mr Bock himself was unsure enough of what he had just done that he asked the county attny if what the commission had just passed was legal, vis a vis the contract with Briar Chapel, and the attny informed him that if it wasn’t, the commissioners could rearrange the wording to make it so!
The point is that the rape crises center should be funded out of recurring revenues, and Commissioner Bock should be answering that question, not grabbing a one time pot of money to score a political point, while still leaving the county without any coherent policy for affordable housing. How do I know whereof I speak? I was at that commissioners meeting, with my unrecognized hand in the air holding forth my proposal for affordable housing in Pittsboro, watching and listening to the entire spectacle. And Chairman Petty was satisfied to go along for the ride.
Finally, so where does the $240,000 per classroom go? Great question …. Got my attention! 1) Is that an accurate depiction of the dollars flowing through each Chatham classroom, and 2) is there a simple line item budget available to the voting public that shows where it is spent? (and if not, why not?)
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 19:20:00 -0400
From: Carol Newnam
Subject: Fundraiser for CORA and the Friends of CORA Garden
I hope that you will consider helping us raise funds for our garden and for CORA. We are selling flower bulbs from now until October 15th. All you have to do is click on the link, Campaign | Flower Power Fundraising Website . It will guide you through the process of ordering, paying, and shipping your purchase to your home address. You can even have them shipped to another address if you want to give this as a gift. This will help the garden and CORA with monies that are needed to help many of our families in Chatham county. Thank you!
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:46:26 +0000
From: David Cunningham
Hello Chatham County,
I am Dave Cunningham, new to the chatlist and thought I would introduce myself.
The question that always comes up is whether I am related to Doug Cunningham from Doug’s Auto in Pittsboro but I am not. Originally from Chattanooga TN and have been living in Pittsboro for 11 years. I work as a mechanical engineer in Chapel Hill and hobbies include restoration of a 1930s circular sawmill, woodworking and gardening. My wife and I grow some of the garlic and basil for Bella Donna’s in Pittsboro.
Thanks and look forward to being involved in the chatlist.
Before you start trying to label me as a crazy liberal, I am not saying that lowing taxes can’t increase revenues
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 09:05:15 -0400
From: Tarus BALOG
Subject: Re: Muddylaces post and the Laffer Curve
On 10/07/2014 08:07 AM, John R Dykers wrote:
> Thank you for introducing the Laffer curve to our political discussion
> in Chatham County. For Chatlisters not familiar with the Laffer curve,
> it is Dr.. Laffer’s research showing how at some point raising taxes
> discourages economic activity and begins to decrease tax revenue.
> Conversely lowering tax rates increases economic activity and increases
> tax revenue.
This isn’t exactly accurate. The Laffer Curve postulates that with a 0% tax rate there will be zero tax revenue, obvious, and at a 100% tax rate there would also be zero revenue, not as obvious but the idea is that if you worked but had to give all of your money away as tax you wouldn’t do it. This may not be true but let’s assume it is for now.
Since for every tax rate in between some revenue will be generated, the idea is that there is a point where a particular tax rate would result in maximum tax revenues. No one can really agree on the shape of the curve, if it has a single maximum or several local maxima, but most of the studies done calculate that tax revenue is maximized at a rate of about 70% and suggest that the curve is roughly bell shaped.
Since the current maximum tax rate is considerably less than 70%, it seems that, based on the Laffer Curve, taxes should be raised to increase revenue. Also, if the Laffer Curve does turn out to be somewhat bell shaped, lowering *or* raising taxes around the maximum will *both* decrease revenue.
You seem to suggest that lowing taxes increases revenue, which really isn’t supported by the Laffer Curve unless the tax rate is already above the maximum, which currently isn’t the case – not by a long shot.
Note that, before you start trying to label me as a crazy liberal, I am not saying that lowing taxes can’t increase revenues. All I am stating is that the Laffer Curve doesn’t support that for our current system.
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:14:02 -0400
From: “Cindy Poindexter”
Subject: You are Invited – Ribbon Cutting and Product Preview – Doodlebugs 10/24
The public is invited to join us on October 24, 2014 at 11:30a to celebrate the opening of “Doodlebugs, located at 17 Hillsboro Street in Pittsboro. A Ribbon Cutting will take place at 12noon. There will be a product preview and light refreshments after the Ribbon Cutting. The event will end at 1:00p.
Doodlebugs is a natural parenting store and resource center. They offer “green” focused products and workshops to help families incorporate these green products into their everyday lives. They also host meetings, groups and classes to enrich the lives of families.document.getElementById("post-17683-blankimage").onload();
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:21:52 -0400
Subject: Returning Bock, Stewart, Petty means more jobs…continued.
“Amen! Now if we can only get them to push for legal prostitution, marijuana sales and gambling we can have even more jobs – jobs that don’t require the injection of secret chemicals into the ground.” democrat poster 10/8/2014
This post proves my point. The poster wants his candidates to run on fracking against the conservatives who are also against fracking. He hates that the local conservatives and local progressive are allies on this issue and it has him stuck in some sort of broken logic loop. I have video of him trying to work this out:
He then goes on to set up the straw-man argument that they will also bring prostitution, marijuana sales and gambling. Careful poster….you sound like you are against marijuana legalization and may be out of step on that non-chatham issue with your party.
“…location of an auto manufacturing plant in Chatham is a bunch of hot air at this point” -Another democrat poster
Siler City and western Chatham voters. Remember this statement when you vote. You’ve got three commissioners who are working for you. Is the certified megasite a done deal? Of course not, but Bock, Stewart and Petty have listened and they know that the Siler City area needs their help. A former leader in the local democrat party, who was part of the now re-branded Coalition, once said, “that they no longer needed to worry about what folks in the western part of Chatham to get their people elected.” You proved them wrong in 2010; do it again in 2014.
Here is the dirty secret that the far left in the county don’t want you to know. Brian Bock, Pam Stewart and Walter Petty couldn’t have been elected without democrats voting for them. Regular folks recognize that they are common sense candidates. There are many conservative democrats in the county with a picture of John F. Kennedy hanging on their wall who don’t share values with the activist liberals who have hijacked their party in the county and they’ve crossed over in 2010 to vote for common sense. They need to do it again and bring along their like minded neighbors to vote.
Return BOCK-STEWART-PETTY to the Chatham County Board of Commissioners.
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:54:56 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: Questions for Brian Bock and Heather Johnson
None of us are perfect.
The age of the Chatham Coalition is long over and I appreciated the volunteer work that these community volunteers did to help Chatham County. Maybe their methods did not gibe with everyone, but I would take the input from hard working volunteers in our community everyday of the week and twice on Sunday’s over astro-turf groups like Americans for Prosperity and the Americans for Prosperity Foundation.
Mark is the precinct chair for Mann’s Chapel and I am its vice-chair for the Democratic Party. Like our friends in the Republican Party this is volunteer work and a labor of love. I respect Mark and my opponents who are working hard on behalf of their candidates.
As for Jeff, he has worked for over 42 years in Chatham County and his body of work speaks for itself. He is not an officer in the Democratic party, the currents officers in Pittsboro are Bev Bland, Peter Harkens, and Pam Cash-Roper, and the PAC he started last spring is defunct.
Interestingly, we have not heard if and when Ms. Johnson’s group, CCV, became disassociated with Americans for Prosperity, who have violated state election laws, nor do we know how Commissioner Bock’s campaign has avoided issues of coordination with the PAC Chatham First, since his campaign committee shares the same treasurer with the PAC and email inquiries to the Board of Election about the Chatham First PAC resulted in an email implying that the contacts for the PAC were the campaigns of Commissioners Bock/Stewart and Petty.
Respectfully, before we get more fear mongering posts from Ms. Johnson it would be reasonable for the community to know the status of Americans for Prosperity in Chatham County, how they relate to the CCGOP and CCV and who is the responsible party for the Chatham First PAC and its failure to properly disclose its role in paying for collateral materials, etc.document.getElementById("post-17676-blankimage").onload();
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:12:45 -0400
Subject: re Muddylaces: fracking and jobs
Regarding our republican county commissioners and FRACKING: yes, they say they oppose it. But I sent them an email about sections of our state constitution that say that under certain conditions a county or community can oppose a law. They said they may look into it, but that they are more concerned about not going against a law. In other words, they say they oppose fracking and at the same time consider a law to be above the constitution. That’s not how it works. Constitutions supercede laws.
Words mean nothing if they are not backed by action. They have not taken action on “looking into the matter” much less confronting the state about it. Those 3 commissioners’ words mean nothing on the subject of fracking. Thus far. I hope they will take action on this matter.
As to the JOBS AND TAXES: Muddylaces and supporters have forgotten that the democrat dominated county commission actually lowered taxes on several occasions. The one time they raised taxes, they raised them back to an earlier level and not higher than that. During this same time period, they also applied for and received grants to help support spending…..so they would not have to raise taxes. YEAY! And even more than that: they didn’t lay off employees at the county levels.
Our current Republican dominated county commission layed off a lot of county employees at the beginning of their tenure. This past year they patted their own backs about adding 700+ jobs at the private sector level….yet earlier they had eliminated many more jobs at the county employee levels than the private sector added. Hardship for those people laid off, plus during the jobless period the same people also would not have been able to pay taxes to the county. Lose-lose.
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:54:49 -0400
From: Kim Calhoun
Subject: Melt in your mouth persimmons and more: Winter Tree Class @ CCCC starts October 28!
Hello good neighbors~
Hope everyone who wants has enjoyed some ripe melt-in-your-mouth native persimmons…it appears to be a bumper crop this year! An abundance of hickory nuts, acorns, black walnuts and pecans are keeping my foraging eyes wide open too. Come learn how to identify and enjoy the trees growing all around us with edible and medicinal gifts. This fun and popular class starts in just a few weeks and there is currently room for you to join us…invite a friend!
WINTER TREE EXPLORATION
Tuesdays, October 28-December 2, 1-4pm
Through CCCC, meets all over Chatham County
Deepen your awareness and connection with our largest plant friends: the trees! In this field study we’ll visit various local environments to explore ways to identify trees in the wintertime. We’ll also cover the edible and medicinal properties of trees, ethical gathering, and preparation, while enjoying many hands-on activities.
Class facilitated by community herbalist and wild foods educator “Planty” Kim Calhoun who grew up learning about trees on walks with her grandparents in the woods of Chatham County. For ages 14 and older. Class size is limited. Register in person or by phone at CCCC in Pittsboro: (919) 545-8044. 6-week class (21 hours) costs $71.25.
(919) 636 2545
• Community Herbalist
• Wild Edibles Educator
• Licensed Massage & Bodywork Therapist #4361
• Registered Yoga Teacher
• Polarity Therapist
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:38:30 -0400
From: Reid Guthrie
Subject: School Board Meeting Notes
I would like to say thank you to Mia Munn for her excellent notes from school board meetings. I’d like to attend more meetings myself but I have other commitments which prevent me from attending. It’s nice to know what’s going on.
Laffer Curve does not address the multiple other considerations as to whether or not increasing or decreasing tax revenue is appropriate
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 09:09:20 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Laffer Curve – Taurus Balog post
Dear Taurus Balog,
Your elucidations are accurate, and please note that I said “at some point” which acknowledges the complexity of determining what rates are ‘effective’ for increasing or decreasing tax revenue. % also requires a definition, as % of what? Income? Property valuation? Sales? Road use?
The Laffer Curve does not address the multiple other considerations as to whether or not increasing or decreasing tax revenue is appropriate. This is a function of effeciency or ineffeciency of any particular governmental unit in returning services commensurate with the taxes collected and the perceived value of the services to differing segments of the population. e.g. raising property taxes or sales taxes, or user fees, in order to pay higher teacher salaries, or fund art projects, or build infrastructure to attract businesses, or provide law enforcement capability or fire fighters or libraries, etc.
I am sure we agree that those things that are taxed are discouraged to some degree and it is our job as an electorate to understand this sufficiently to weigh this against the benefits derived from each governmental units use of tax revenue to perform services we cannot do as individuals or in non-govermental organizations.