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Chatham County again experiences increased visitor spending

The latest statewide tourism spending report shows that “domestic visitors” spent $30.77 million in Chatham County during 2012, an increase of 4.4 percent from 2012, continuing a multi-year trend of substantial growth in visitor spending. On August 14, 2014, the North Carolina Division of Tourism, Film and Sports released the results of the annual study conducted by the U.S. Travel Association.

CCCC plans workforce training for Chatham-Randolph megasite

Excitement is running high at Central Carolina Community College as it works with city, county, state and industry representatives to develop a blueprint for workforce training at the Chatham-Randolph industrial manufacturing megasite. The 1,800-acre Chatham County site, located northwest of Siler City, is ideal for an automotive assembly plant as well as original equipment manufacturers, according to Southern Business & Development magazine. It ranked the megasite as the No. 3 site in the South - and No. 1 in the state - for an auto assembly plant.

Chatham Randolph Megasite

Liberal Virginia Penley upset that no one rides the Pittsboro-Chapel Hill bus

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 23:58

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:09:24 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: GOP Commissioners serve Chatham Co the Least They Can

I could not help but to read Ms. Johnson’s explanation regarding the change of priorities by the GOP-led County Commissioners over the last four years. Of course when they were narrowly elected in 2010 or what they called a “mandate†we were told that they would return Chatham County Government to “its core purpose of providing essential services.†*

As I understood it the services were 1. Upholding the US Constitution and the NC Constitution; 2. Public Safety; 3. Public Education; 4. Infrastructure; 5. Protecting our environment and natural resources; 6. Providing a basic social safety net to those who cannot provide for themselves

Naturally when one governs through a rigid application of ideological filters expenditures or investments on all functions not considered a “core function†, such as public transit, recreation, parks, arts, libraries, etc. will potentially be defunded, privatized or de-emphasized.

For example, to my understanding, during the discussion about the Pittsboro-Chapel Hill bus that is funded almost entirely by UNC and Chapel Hill, Mr. Bock said that if they had extra funds after adequately financing the above-listed core functions, they would return the funds to the taxpayers, not fund non-core functions such as public transit. Now given the potential growth in our county and the attitudes from millennials about cars and transit Mr. Bock appears to be out of step with the younger generation and where the scholarship and the development community nationwide is on the issue of transit and its economic importance.

So apparently when transit is on the table regardless of facts and the prevailing scholarship, Mr. Bock is determined to take Chatham in his direction, “Bockward†, which is neither forward nor backward.

Naturally, I and many others support the funding of FVRC and its mission, but I do not see why the GOP team deserves much credit for their decisions. They essentially took the funds out of the the deal made years ago with Briar Chapel, failed to make a good deal on behalf of the citizens to secure the promised lots in Briar Chapel and took the money and threw it at the non-profits they decided to support in Chatham County with little or no process and little regard to the many years of work volunteers put in on the Affordable Housing Task Force and on the Advisory Board.

To me the result was another example of “Bad Deal Brian†. He could have negotiated a much better deal on behalf of all citizens in the county, but instead negotiated and accepted a convenient deal instead of the best deal.

Again, I support the mission of those non-profits and their tremendous work making proverbial “silk from a sow’s ear†, but I believe legitimate questions linger about the process and policies that led to the decisions by our GOP-led Board of Commissioners.

Finally, I have no issues with Mr. Bock nor Ms. Stewart personally, I respect their willingness to serve in our county. My critique is solely focused on where we differ on process, policy and implementation and why I believe Karen Howard, Diana Hales, and Jim Crawford are better candidates to serve the long term interests of the people of our county.


Chicken Little

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 23:44

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:41:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kerry Straughn
Subject: Chicken Little

Thanks for the real reason explanation of what was going on, maybe next time chicken little will look upwards to see why the sky is falling instead of preaching a personal agenda about the sky falling.



Hometown Boy and Hometown Bores . .

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 23:35

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:04:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: lingam32443
Subject: Hometown Boy and Hometown Bores . .

In yesterday’s Chatlist, deloispopp (what a peculiar name for a native!) goes on to say that she/he was born in Chatham County and raised in Pittsboro and says “Believe me we do not want to claim Starkweather as one of our home town boys. If he were, it would be quite an embarrassing reality.”

Please dear deloispopp, give us a rundown of your family history, that makes you Chatham County Royalty.

Did it ever occur to you, dekoispopp that the natives were then, and sometimes now are still embarrassing? I arrived about the same time as Mr. Starkweather and believe me, many you native folks were just about as nasty, ignorant and prejudiced as you could possibly be(and still are)-

Here are some classics I remember:

A “hometown” realtor to me: “Sure, we got plenty of N—— here, but they don’t bother nobody”

A “hometown” insurance salesman: Drove by my home and decided he didn’t like the looks of my place and wouldn’t discuss insuring me.

A “hometown” home owner wouldn’t sell to me “because he had called the police station in the town I was temporally residing, ‘had never heard of me.”

A “hometown” Pittsboro town board member, at an outdoor market, blurted out to me “You damned Yankees come down here and think you own the place!” (I was born in North Carolina)

A “hometown” Pittsboro hardware store owner, even tho I had spent hundreds of cash dollars there over a period of three years, wouldn’t take a personal check- “Are you local?”

The reality of your embarrassment, dear deloispopp, is that you seem likely to be related to the “hometown” cranks mentioned above. The cranks that don’t want change, not capable of making change and have never really changed in their entire life. I think it is sometimes referred to as ‘hick in the mud.’

Remember, native deloispopp, we ‘non-natives’ out here in Chatlist Land are waiting to hear your response as to why you are really better than the rest of us ‘outsiders!”

L. Ingam


Yard Sale full of Antiques 507 East Street Sunday 8-24-14

Neighbor to Neighbor - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 17:48
Yard Sale with many Antiques, This Sunday 8-24-14  Starts at 1 pm ends at 4pm
Beautiful Antique Cherry Jamestown Sterling Corp Drop leaf Table, with 2 extra leafs, Pads that seats 4 leafs down 8 with all leafs in and 4 Queen Anne white upholstered chair.

2-Antique Chairs
Beautiful Plaid Lazy Boy Couch...

Woods Charter School welcomes new teachers

Chatham Journal Newspaper Headlines - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 14:24
Woods Charter School kicks off the new school year with several new teachers. New teachers include Erin Collins, Summer Delciotto, Dena Floyd, Aimee Haygood, Ketie Lewis, Misty Peeler, Julie Rosen, and John Sheridan.

Woods Charter School

New School Year–New Opportunities at NHS

Chatham County Schools BBS - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 11:42
As students return for a new school, we encourage you to get involved in the life of school community. At Northwood, the award-winning arts education department offers a wealth of opportunities—classes, clubs, extracurricular activities, concerts, competitions, exhibits, field trips, service activitie...

Re: I want your old signs

Free Classifieds - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 11:08
Dad says he may have one or two. If he can find any, I'll have them Monday night, and I'll let you know about it then.

Say Yes to the Chef podcast tells the story of Pittsboro’s Bella Donna Italian Restaurant

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 09:55

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:21:06 -0700
From: “Bella Donna Italian Restaurant”
Subject: say Yes to the Chef podcast

Here is the podcast from Say Yes to the Chef. Tells the story of Bella Donna Italian Restaurant, from the beginning.

Donna Bianco, Owner

Bella Donna Italian Restaurant & Pizzeria
440 East Street, Pittsboro, NC 27312
Tel: (919) 545-0900
Email: donna@
Connect with us: Facebook


Learn how to take the fire out of fire ants on September 4

Chatham Journal Newspaper Headlines - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 09:47
Calls have been coming into Extension Centers across the piedmont area of North Carolina, including Chatham County, throughout the spring and summer about the fire ant mounds popping up. In response, Chatham County’s Extension Agent Charlotte Glen and Extension Director Sam Groce will conduct a free program, Taking the Fire Out of Fire Ants, on Thursday Sept. 4, 2014 from 7 to 9 pm at the Chatham Extension Center in Pittsboro.

Chatham County hosts Leadership Academy graduation for employees

Chatham Journal Newspaper Headlines - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 09:47
On August 15, 2014, Chatham County government hosted its twelfth graduating ceremony for its Leadership Academy, an award-winning program initiated to help employees gain the skills necessary to effectively manage their jobs and prepare them for expanded responsibilities. All classes are led by county employees.

Chatham Habitat for Humanity will sponsor a car show fundraiser in Pittsboro on September 27

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 07:52

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:58:20 -0400
From: Mechelle Thompson
Subject: Cars for Castles

*Chatham Habitat for Humanity will sponsor a car show fundraiser on September 27, 2014 from 10:00am to 3:00pm, at the Chatham County Fairgrounds in Pittsboro:*
*Cars for Castles Cruise-In*
*This event will feature all makes and models of vehicles*
*We are expecting a large crowd at this event and are in need of volunteers to help with parking, food sales, directing the crowd, etc. *
*All proceeds from this event will help Chatham Habitat for Humanity build more homes for local low-income families.*


Come to the Old Fashioned Farmers Day weekend in Silk Hope during the Labor Day Weekend

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Fri, 08/22/2014 - 06:50

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:44:44 -0400
From: Wanda Crawley
Subject: Old Fashioned Farmers Day

Mark your calendars!!! August 29, 30 and 31! Labor Day Weekend!!
Gates open at 9am on Saturday and Sunday!

Old Fashioned Farmers Day weekend at Silk Hope will soon be here!!!
Come see the old farm equipment in operation! See the saw mill working! Entertainment in the Big Barn and in the park. Kiddie Tractor Pull in the barn! New this year for kids is the FREE Kids Zone! Vendors for your shopping! Food vendors available when you are ready to eat! And don’t forget to try the Silk Hope Famous “Steam Cream”! Yummy! Something for everyone to enjoy!
Come bring the family and friends for a day of fun filled activities!!

Friday night-Truck/Tractor Pull
Saturday night-Antique Tractor Pull
Sunday afternoon-Local gospel groups singing in the Barn!


Re: Speeders

Neighbor to Neighbor - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 23:01
As a concerned citizen of Chatham county, I truly am quite dismayed at the use of empty patrol cars to "scare" drivers into believing that anyone, especially our local police departments, is worried about the horrible driving habits that seem to have plagued the entire US. Is it possible to plant poli...

Re: Copperheads

Neighbor to Neighbor - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 17:09
Having been bitten by a baby copperhead and suffered consequences of, I chop to pieces any snake in doubt with a remotely diamond shaped head. I leave any black snake alone, as they do assist with the matter.

It’s time to join together for the yearly Kayser Roth Reunion in Pittsboro on August 23rd

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 15:46

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:07:40 -0400
From: Lois Clark
Subject: Kayser Roth Reunion

It’s time to join together for the yearly Kayser Roth Reunion. It will be held this Saturday, August 23rd 2014
Home of. Joyce Suttles. Hwy 64. East. Pittsboro
Time. 2:00 P.M.
Cost. $10 per person. Catered by Marsha Scurlock

If you were an employee there please come and see old acquaintance and have some fun.


Come See the Face of Agriculture in Chatham County during Agriculture Awareness Day on August 23

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 13:43

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:34:18 +0000
From: Debbie Roos
Subject: Agriculture Awareness Day August 23!

Saturday, August 23, 2014 from 10:00 am – 2:00 pm

Come See the Face of Agriculture in Chatham County!

Central Carolina Community College (CCCC) – Pittsboro Campus
764 West Street
Pittsboro, NC 27312-8822

Free lunch for the first 500 guests!

Sponsored by the Chatham County Farm Bureau; co-sponsored by Central Carolina Community College and Chatham County Cooperative Extension

This free event is open to the public!

.. Tour of CCCC Student Farm at 11:00 am
.. Chainsaw safety demo by NC Forest Service
.. Gregg Brittenham, farrier, shoeing a horse
.. Bouncy house and coloring contest for the kids
.. Spinning wool
.. Fresh cider pressed on-site

Attending Organizations:
.. Chatham County Cooperative Extension
.. Chatham County Sheriff’s Department
.. Chatham County Agri-Business Council
.. Chatham County Livestock Association
.. Carolina Farm Stewardship Association
.. Farm Bureau Insurance
.. NC Horse Council
.. Chatham County Soil & Water Conservation
.. Chatham County 4-H kids with their animals
.. NC Forest Service

Attending Local Businesses:
.. Country Farm & Home Supply
.. Pittsboro Outdoor Power Equipment
.. Huckleberry Trail Farm
.. Clapp Brother’s Tractor & Implements
.. James River Equipment
.. Dr. Richard Kirkman, DMV
.. Arbor Enterprises, Inc.
.. Crystal Willett, The Rabbit Barn
.. Bland Landscaping
.. Matthew Arnsberger, Piedmont Environmental Landscape and Design

Food Vendors:
.. Maple View Dairy Ice Cream for sale!
.. Barney’s Famous Hot Dogs
.. Fresh Pressed Cider

Debbie Roos
Agricultural Extension Agent
Chatham County Center
North Carolina Cooperative Extension


Re: Copperheads

Neighbor to Neighbor - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 09:22
I've got 2 border collies that I worry about.   They absolutly fly through what little woods I have.   One of the dogs may be okay as I once saw him cower at a little turtle crawling through the yard.   Seriously, I had to pick him up to get him in the house.    The other one I think may show interest...

Mia Munn’s notes from the July 21, 2014 Chatham County School board meeting

Chatham Chatlist Highlights - Thu, 08/21/2014 - 07:26

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:15:32 -0400
From: Mia Munn
Subject: My notes from the July 21, 2014 CCS School board meeting

Sorry this was delayed:

New format – closed session at the end of open session. Meeting started just after noon. Two community members (Angela Millsaps and myself) were in attendance.



*Consent agenda approved*

*Code of Student Conduct *

Review of policies – multiple policies, changes in laws

Revision, new format with infractions in Levels 1-5, clarifies expectations, easier to follow for students, parents, admin. Lots of discussion in preparing these changes, particularly around proposed consequences – principals can deviate. Insure common standards and compliance.

Replaces other policies – would need to rescind those policies.

Hamm – I brought up school bus – glad that they are separate – but some offenses may need school consequences as well as bus consequences.

Turner – K-5 consequences too much

Hamm – bus consquences have to be quicker and more severe – bus is moving down the road, behind driver’s back. Privilege.

Turner – not privilege – required to provide bus transportation.

Howard – getting student to school is on parents not students

Turner – why not put second adult on bus. Some students won’t comply. Anything that makes them miss school is too much.

Hamm – parents legal responsibility to get them to school

Jordan – already hardship finding bus drivers – not having strong consequences will make more difficult.

Jordan – atypical to give suggested consequences for specific offenses – more districts don’t have. We have had to increase consistency.

Hamm – if deviate, then next parent will complain

Jordan – counsel said to make sure principals understand aggravating and mitigating circumstances. Every tweak has been around suggested consquences.. Levels have maximum consequences. More problems if spell out consequences – clear that there can be deviations. Within school, needs to have consistency.

Turner – K doesn’t understand in the same way – same consequences for different grades?

Jordan – laborious to break out for every grade. Principal has discretion to take into consideration (K less understanding of breaking rule).

Leonard – move to rescind policies.

*Approved 4-0*

Leonard – move waive first reading and adopt student code of conduct.

*Approved 4-0*

*Schedule for Supt Evaluation schedule and process* – from attorney based on state rubric with 2 small tweaks

July 30 – discuss initial thoughts on goals. Then before Sept mtg – self-assessment. Sept mtg, set goals for year.

*Approved 4-0*

*Graduation requirements*

Four areas of changes

P 2-5 – tables (clarify state requirement and CCS requirement)

Language in red – college and career promise – give HS credit for college course (in college and career promise pathway)

P 1-2 – seat time – state board no longer requiring seat time – share more info later – credit through demonstrated mastery – district can grant credit – doesn’t contribute to gpa. Native language speakers, very advanced students. Putting together team to define process (state doesn’t have all of the particulars)

Jordan – NCPVS didn’t require seat time

Access more rigourous coursework

P 6 – EOC – no longer require score of 3 to get course credit. State tests 20% of grade (in past, CCS was higher than state – 25%)

P 7 – diploma endorsements – focus area/pathway – addition to diploma – don’t have info from state. Not required to have endorsement to graduate.

For mastery – student passes test and does project.

Howard – mastery – how express intent?

In Orange – pilot district. Process – have to apply to go through (end of semester before) . Same requirements across district. Timeframe to complete test and project. Guidelines around courses exempt from process.

*Approved. 4-0*

(Howard called for a vote, took the vote, then asked for discussion)

Del – we are graduating people that don’t have mastery. Take a test – give them the test, give them the answers.

Hartness – Credit by mastery process is Rigorous –Orange had to get 94%, and then do project. State board requirement that we offer option.

Hamm – in Orange how many?

Hartness – Only in Foreign language native speakers– 4 apply, 2 passed test, zero passed project. Harder than they expected

Jordan – came from DPI AIG dept – initially, many kids think they can get credit without course, but most realize they can’t – exceptional students.

Hamm – like early admin to K – only handful state wide.

*Reg 7510R Education Leave for employees*

Previous allowed employee for only a short time – now licensed employees have to have been employed 5 years, and have to be enrolled full-time.

Previously – can’t be in consecutive years – now, only in exceptional circumstances (principal academy)

Jordan – reward long-term employees. Instance in past year – newer employee, hard to fill position.

Regulation doesn’t require approval – but want board feedback.

Howard – good idea. Benefit to employee/investment.

Jordan – love the word “investment†.

*Regulation 5030R – community use of facilities*

Worked on for several months – policy match practice (and practice match policy).

Blice – discussions on request to waive fees. Need to have requirement for timeline (so not after the fact). If waive – 45 day notice. Embedded in regulation and application.

Howard – paper applications?

Electronic – school fills it out and submits.

Hamm – what if submit late, 42 days? Admin wants to hear that board will back.

Jordan – can appeal.

Turner – why 45 not 30

Blice – timeline – can’t request space more than 60 days in advance. Need to have time for board meeting.

Turner – fee if cancel?

No cancellation fee. Not sure if application fee is refundable.

Turner – think there should be. What if several groups want at same time. Group miss out. Limit ourselves if don’t have cancellation fee.

Howard – app fee is indication intend to go forward. Bad taste – looks like we are a money making enterprise.

Turner – I get it – we’re not looking to make money..

Jordan – to even break even, substantially increase. With 45 days – if thought enough in advance, not fly by night or in conflict with intent of policy.

*Fee Schedule for community use of facilities*

Comparison with other districts

(Jordan – always asks staff “have we benchmarked?†)

Didn’t look at Wake (not comparable). CHCCS, Harnett, Lee, Orange, Moore, Randolph) – lots of variation.

Generally lower than everyone but Randolph – look to be middle of the road. Recoup costs and keep facilities in good shape.

Hamm – is $25/hour enough for lights at football field?

Messer – varies school to school.

Jordan – have allowed use of theater lights – blown bulbs fall back to district. Sound system has a certain lifetime.

Hamm – sound board – usually students run. Do students get paid? (Y)

Is $25/hr custodian/supervisor – if that enough?

Blice – had been vetted previously.

Messer – y. would cover – gets normal hourly rate.

Jordan – have heard that some groups couldn’t afford to use..

Leonard – concerned about doubling (everything but app fee and classrooms) – message sending to community. When our students/community uses – win/win situation for schools. Need to do better job at school level policing (if don’t take care – don’t rent to that group).

Jordan – policy said “bring suggestions for changes to fee structure annually†– last time was several years ago. No “right’ answer – look at neighbors and stay in the middle (or on low side).

Staff will live with whatever board decides. Obligated to maintain facilities.

Leonard – if says look at every year – then could modify next year.

Jordan – (lunch prices – increase more than minimum, so don’t have to increase every year.)

Hamm – move non-profit from $50 to $35, and increase to $50 next year. Leave for-profit.

Turner – $30 and damage deposit?

Howard – how much? Could be a lot more.

Hamm – damage deposit wouldn’t cover glass backboard.

Jordan – concessions – eliminate (like other districts) – stock and health inspections.

Blice – can’t nail down cost of lighting.

Jordan – not required to bring back every year now, but we could.

*Revised schedule (non-profit $50 lowered to $35) – approved 4-0.*

(Howard called for a vote, took the vote, then asked for discussion)

Reconsider when implement – what if someone applied tomorrow and wanted waiver, but within 45 days.

Hamm – could apply – in transition.

Jordan – feels less clean.

Howard – do we delay for-profit as well?

Applications submitted on or after September 1 –

*Motion to revisit approval of fees – approved 4-0*

*Motion to make new fee schedules effective Sept 1. Approved 4-0*

*Waiver of rental fees *

Jordan – Mr. Blice address use of lights. Should we waive cost of using lights?

Leonard – don’t waive lights

Howard – request waiver of specific things or all fees?

Blice – just general – discovering as try to refine rules.

*Leonard – motion to approve (including lights) *

*Approved – 4-0*

Jordan – Add to regulation – no light waivers in future (in consensus)

*YMCA Memorandum of Understanding*

Reviewed – on summer Fridays, allowed Y to use. Charge $60 utility fee for Fridays – not in MOU. Needed to do. Y folks have no concerns.

Hamm – do in June before summer (haven’t done recent years)

*Approved 4-0*

*Rescind logo discussion*

Received feedback after May meeting when adopted logo. Changes have cost. $5-15K. Continue, or step back, and look at logo again. Will keep logo 10 years or more. Require marketing. Want it to say “world class schools†. Slightly different or completely different direction.

Howard – which cheaper?

Stay with adopted (and revise). Cleanup – or look at new firm or new bunch of logos with different starting point.

Business cards, letterhead, etc – costs associated with rollout.

Hamm – concerned that reopen after 4-0 vote *(NOTE: vote was 3-1, Turner against)*. Accepted with potential changes to colors or font. Shocked they are charging for those minor changes. There are cheaper alternatives (friend with new business- $300 for 500 alternatives).

Jordan – not just minor tweaks. Colors – we have exhausted a number of color combinations. Nothing says “world-class†– says courthouse, tower, busy.

Request to include courthouse from EDC.

Howard – we had a process. Survey. Vote. Fix what was adopted.

Hamm – how many times vote till get it right?

Howard – Jordan got feedback.

Turner – design doesn’t meet requirement of job – CCS schools – courthouse doesn’t say that

Leonard – we need to get there – spending

Compass 47% survey, selected – 43%.

Leonard – if accept one of 2 – only a little money to cleanup. If new one, lots of money.

Need to be on website, paper, color and b&W – complicated.

Howard – stick with what approved –

Jordan story of parts of logo (describing) – don’t get from just looking at it

Hamm – can we get price estimated?

Jordan – get more info, and bring back July 30? What changes wanted?

Howard – don’t like font. Make compass more clear. Colors. Tell them expect <$5k.

Start with compass version – change font (to font on others), make compass more identifiable. Show Haw River Christian Academy logo so it is not as similar.

For courthouse – make less busy – (remove shield, make book smaller?)

Or go forward with what voted on?

Howard – rescind prior decision and go with compass.

*Approved – 3-1 (Hamm opposed)*

*Adjourn to closed session* – items included personnel agenda (I didn’t stay).

Approved Personnel agenda


Angie Brady-Andrews named new principal of Silk Hope.


Silk Hope AP Toomer named new AP at Northwood. Philip Little was also named
new AP at Northwood. Effective dates to be determined.

Mia Munn
Candidate for Chatham County (NC) School Board District 3
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